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For the film Minority Report, they use a filter called bleach bypass. This makes skin look paler, and blues stand out more. It's used in quite a few films.

I've got Premier 6.5 - is there a way to mimic this effect?

I've played with color mapping but can't get it exactly. Does anyone else know how to change the coloring of a shot?

Thanks.

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This is actually a chemical process where you regain the silver-halide crystals in the emulsive layer of the film, so you'll never REALLY be able to get it digitally, but I guess you could try to emulate it. My suggestion would be to make multiple layers of the same video track and mess around with color corrections, transparencies, and screening. I think you could get pretty close. But it might be alot easier w/FCP.

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Thanks. I didn't know they actually mess with with film itself. I thought they just had a color filter in an editing program.

Oh well :P

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In magic bullet's look suite, there is a bleach bypass preset. It looks great. But, you gotta have after effects before you can buy the $500 (with student discount) plugin. Cyos is correct that you can achieve the same look using basic filters, transparencies and compositing modes in Premiere.
 
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Thanks for the help. I know how to edit the colors and stuff, but the problem is, if you take out a certain shade of a color, it changes the whole look of the scene. I can get it fairly close just dragging bars, but I can't get skin to look white enough, and still have all the backgrounds have the bluish tone I want.

I can get a lot of pluggins for AE from my friend. I think it's lousy that those pluggins are more than the program they need to run on :P

What do you mean multiple layers of the same project? I probably know what you're talking about, just don't know the lingo Smile

Thanks, again.

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Okay, this concept was interesting me so I did a little experiment to emulate bleach-bypassing and I got a pretty cool look. I used three video tracks; but in Premiere you'll need to do the first two layers and export them into their own video file then use that file as a single track...

But anyway, here goes:

Layer 1: Keep the Opacity at 100%
Desaturate completely.
Increase Brightness from 5-15% (I used 8%)
Increase Contrast 100%
Color Correct:
Blacks, Mids, and Whites to Blue.
(Or the respective colors of your choice)

Layer 2: (Above Layer 1)
Set the Opacity to ~= 85%

Layer 3: (Above Layer 2)
Set the Opacity anywhere from 30-40%
Desaturate completely
Increase Brightness and Contrast by the same amounts as you did for Layer 1.

This configuration was for a clip shot indoors with flourescent lighting. The faces went white, the blacks were blacker and the highlights were brighter. IT makes it a little grainier which I think looks great, but if you don't like the grain, increase the brightness on Layers 1 and 3.

Best of luck on your project.

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I really want to try this. Too bad I can't get a hold of Premier for a while (out of town).

Anyway, so in Premier, I would basically drag the same movie onto the timeline 3 times, in 3 seperate tracks?

Like, track 1 movie.avi, track 2 movie.avi, track 3 movie.avi, and then mess with the colors seperately?

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try changing the composite mode to screen for the top layer and adding a little gaussian blur. this will make the highlights blow out and glow.

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^^ good thinking

I like that blur effect Smile

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Bleach bypass has different effects depending on when it is performed. Usually it is done on release prints to crush blacks and desaturate colors a bit. It can also be used on the negative or the inter-negative to blow out highlights like in Minority Report. Understanding the process may help devise a way to mimic it better in post.

The concept is that when developing the film each color layer is first developed as a unique black and white image. It is after these three images are created that the color dyes are added. Usually the silver halide crystals used to create those initial B&W images are then 'bleached' away leaving a crisp colorful image behind. So performing this process would be akin to imposing a B&W image over the normal color one.

If I were to try to mimic the Minority Report effect on video in post I would convert everything to negative first. Then I would make B&W versions of each RGB channel from that negative and layer each one with a degree of transparency over top the normal color negative image. Render all that stuff together then flip the whole shabang back to positive and voila. Seeing as you can control transparency levels this is actually closer to ENR and ACE controlled silver retention than Bleach bypass, so you get even more bang for your buck.

I would recommend doing some tests with the look before shooting your project. You may decide on slight under/over exposure while shooting to compensate & you may also want to look into getting a low-con filter of some sort.

Nota "low-con, hi-con, ex-con" Mono
 
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