hey emilio.both nuendo n cubase are really good softwares.well cubase is just a bit lower end version of nuendo actually.infact if u know how to use cubase u can very well work on nuendo too.

other PC based softwares dat are good may include logic pro 7 n logic platinum.

btw w8kbrdr08 u said uve got MAC OSX so why dont u give pro tools a try.its one of the best in world.btw u need to have good plugins to go with ur softwares as well for eg- if u are looking for a really good guitar tone u might need a plugin like amplitube or guitar rig with ur software.

Hey guys,

I'm kinda having troubles with Nuendo and Cubase, they kinda get stuck while loading. Are there any other good programs for Windows as in musical terms? I'm looking for good software like Cubase/Nuenod/Digital Performer/Logic, etc, but most of it is Mac stuff or it gets stuck.

By the way any chance I install another OS so I'll get it to work?

hmm dunno why its getting stuck in ur pc.anyways u might wanna try out some other softwares like acid pro,sonar,cakewalk.i am not sure how good they are but all of them are pretty famous.check it out if possible.btw i am presuming u have atleast 256 mb of RAM in ur pc to run Nuendo/Cubase.

btw u might wanna check out fruity loops n reason to program ur drums/beats/strings too.

I jsut got Ableton Live 4 and I'm all new to this shiite. Ive got it hooked up to my MIDI keyboard and now I want to mess with some cool sounds but I need a sound library or something like that. Anyone know of any good sound library things that I could use with Live?

Here's what I'm using:
Cakewalk Sonar (sequencer)
EWQL Gold (orchestra sampler/virtual instrument)
Kontakt (sampler)
Stylus RMX (drum/beat loops, kits, fx, lots of ways to tweak the sounds and loops to make them unique sounding)
Atmosphere (virtual instrument/synth)
EWQL RA (world instrument sampler/virtual instrument)
And, many other virtual instruments.

You can listen to some of my music at:
http://ci-studios.com/

There's a steep learning curve to this. Aside from knowing something about theory and orchestration, there are many details in the technology that you need to become familiar with if you want realistic and emotional sounding results. For example... you could enter a complete score into Sonar/EWQL Gold full of beautiful harmonies and orchestration, but without taking a great deal of time to also add midi cc info to every single instrument you will get a fairly flat, mechanical sounding piece. (The midi cc info adds the subtle nuances that real sounding performances need... crescendos, decrescendos, the sound of more/less pressure being applied with the bow of your strings, the force of breath going into your winds, etc..)

There are simpler approaches like loop based programs or using premade orchestral phrases, but in the end you get back what you put into it. IMHO you're trading the ability to make unique custom music for convenience and a generic sound.
But, that's just my opinion... and I'm a bit biased If canned stuff works for you then why not use it? If you don't want canned stuff and don't have time to learn how to use a sequencer, I'm sure there are plenty of aspiring composers out there who would be willing to work with you.

So what category would you place a program like Acid Pro or Live in? Can't I make custom music with these two programs? Basically what I want to do is plug my guitar and MIDI keyboard into the comp, and play my own music to some drum loops, and add electronic sounds diff sound FX etc etc. I really want to be able to get some cool sounding instruments with my keyboard, but THE ABSOLUTE BEST MOST REALISTIC SOUNDS aren't that important to me. So like preset instruments are okay. What I really really want to do though is be able to get a lot of options with my guitar's sound, and just get a really kick ass sound with my guitar.

I have to admit that the last time I tried Acid was version 3, and I've never used Live. But, assuming that they both allow you to record audio and use VST fx and instruments, then they'd be fine for what you want. I wouldn't expect that they'd be the best options for complex orchestral music, but to lay down some premade loops and record you own guitar they'd be fine. For guitar fx (VST), Native Instruments Guitar Rig is incredible.

I didn't mean to say that if you use looped based software you can't do unique music... but if you just use premade loops and phrases, and don't actually write anything, you're going to come up with a variation on something that a bunch of other people are doing too... same sounds, same beats, just different arrangements. I'm sure that Acid and Live have many or most of the same capabilities as a full sequencer does... it's just a matter of how you use them.

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One other thing. I'm assuming that Live supports VST instruments... Check out the KVR website for tons of free instruments and fx. I think the address is kvraudio.com.

Ok thanks man. You're info is great, and the website is just what i needed. CHEERS

No problem. I know that KVR can be overwhelming (in a good way) - so many things to choose from. One of the nicest free synths IMO is Crystal (by Green Oak). It's got some really cool features, and comes with lots of presets. Just google 'green oak crystal'. I'm sure it's on KVR somewhere, but it would be quicker to just go to the green oak page.

Let me know if you're looking for any specific type of sound, I might be able to steer you in the right direction.

Aright cool bro. Yah the KVR site definitely has a lot of stuff. Now what about an old sounding piano? You know, like the goofy pianos they play in Western movies. Or is that a specific style of playing? And how bout a 60's organ?

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Do you need also a virtual amp or something similar? since you are searching some stuff to tweak your guitar sounds...