Hey everyone,

I have these two videos I want to put together for my movie. Although I've already had the primere, I think this little thing will make the film so much better. Anyways, here are two frames from the two scenes I wanna put together.


BACKGROUND FRAME PIC1


MAIN FRAME PIC2

Well, you see, Pic2 is actually a scene of a girl drowning, and I wanted to crop it to just the face drowning and put it into the eye in PIC1. My eye is like open for about 8 seconds or so, and thats about how long that scene is, and hten my eye shuts, I wanted the drowning scene still there when my eye shuts so my eyelids cover it. I wanted to do this but make it look as real as possible, as flawless, anybody have any ideas how to do that?

Thank you guys again! You guys are the best!

Goodwill

I don't know what version of Premiere you have or if the new one even does this, but in FCP 4, you can actually crop the clip and superimpose it [drowning clip track 2] on the other clip [video 1]. Then you would obviously have to resize the clip so that it matches up with the eye. You could also mess around with the edges so that it's round or oval shaped like the eye. As for the drowning clip, it's a bit cloudy and might blend into your skin, giving you undesireable results. I would either reshoot it [to the dismay of your actress, I'm sure] or tweak the color levels. Good luck, it sounds good so far.

Hmmm, I have Adobe Priemre Pro, and I am not suer if it does this. I can always add a tint to the scene though, i'm not going to reshoot it because the movie is already done, I jsut wanted to add this little scene in beacuse I thoguht it would be cool... Lol, anyways thanks for your help! Is there any other way to do it?

Goodwill

After effects would be a better way to do this, but it could be done with photoshop and premiere pro, one way is with track mattes. This should work:

1 - Open the still in photoshop. draw white over the part of the eye to be covered. remove the original image and give the circle a black background.

2 - create a second image with a small white rectangle.

3 - import into premiere pro. create a new sequence. Take the drowning clip and put it in video 1. place the white circle over it into video 2. place a track matte key on the drowning clip. Set the matte to video 2 and composite using to matte alpha. The video behind will show through. move and adjust the drowning to fit the circle.

4 - new sequence. place the eye clip in video 1, the drowning sequence you just created in 2, and the square image you made in 3. Do the track matte key again on video 2, using the same settings, except target video 3 for the matte. Now you should have a square of video with the rounded off drowning sequence in it.

5 - place a key on the drowning sequence in 2 ( i think screen will do this) to remove the black around the circle drowning video.

6 - Now you should be able to adjust the clips so the rounded portion of the drowning clip lines up to the eye and the rectangle track matte clips off the top of it at the eyelid. keyframe the motion of the rectangle track matte to match the eyelid closing. I'd screw with the opacity of the drowning too to make it look a little cleaner.


I just pulled this off the top of my head, and i dont even know if you are using premiere pro lol. But if you are, let me know if this works out for ya. I think that should work...

I have no clue if this would work, but you could crop the clip, motion track the eye, make the drowning small and semitransparant, and take alot of time to get the two to match together. Having never even used some of these effects, I have no idea if this would work. Prehapse others will correct me, but this might work out. Just basically cropping the drowning and carefully overlaying the two. The above way really sounds better though.

jeff is there anyway to crop the footage in preimere pro? I have it lined up with teh eye and everything and looks great, just gotta make it a circle or oval instead of a rectangle. Thanks!

Goodwill

yea there is, strangely enough the put it under a plugin in pro, which seems odd to me, but thats where it is. I think its under transform or something like that. Dig around and drop it on the clip. Voila.

Sounds like it is working out for ya? Let us see it when you get it done.

I found the crop one, and I cropped the picture but still can't make it a circle or oval shape

oh yea...you cant do that with that function. You need to mask it with a shape like i mentioned above. Thats the only way i know to do it without using after effects.

dont you use the pen tool to make a mask?

if you can i wasnt aware of it, be cool if you could. do you know how? Goodwill, if you need a better description of how to use a track matte with a black/white mask image, check out the help files in premiere for track matte, it is explained there as well. Have any luck?

Still no luck, but I'm still playing with it. The original version of the movie though has been nominated for two awards in the Calgary Hot Shots film festival! Thanks Jeff!

you gonna send it to studentfilms?

I played with those stills you posted. I couldn't get anything I really liked, either. The guy's eye was just too small for the drowning victim to be recognizable and yet have the reflection look the least bit authentic. However, the most realistic I got it was when I did a crescent shaped mask on the right side of his eye lid (over the reflection that was already there). Then, I adjusted the levels, increasing the black input and decreasing the white output on the drowning victim. The I applied a screen composite and reduced opacity to 85ish percent. (and of course scaled and positioned the clip over the eye)

So, that may be a new starting point for ya. maybe that'll help.

all the best

Hey guys,
Gonne give this a rest for a bit, I'm leaving tomorrow for the Calgary Hot Shots Film Festival award ceremony, soo.... wish me luck! Here's some info bout the festival www.hsfilmfest.com