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uhh, yeah, it's totally possible. It will require some medium to heavy duty compositing (and possibly CG). Could you describe the shot more indepthly? And does the camera tilt, pan, or do any other movement? ...that'll make it much harder. more info please Joren www.jorenclark.com"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few. " ~Shunryu Suzuki
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| Posts: 1742 | Location: HELL-A | Registered: March 05, 2003 |    |
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good idea Jeff. word. One issue I see you might have is the reflective and transparent nature of glass. It'll make keying or otherwise matting out the 'ghost' actor/apparatus very difficult. It might be better to use a less noticeable color support (so any reflections look natural) and rotoscope/matte out the shot by hand. Have you storyboarded your shot/s? Do you want to do it in a master or do multiple close-ups? Depending on how you shoot it, the way you do the effect will change. I renew my suggestion that you just composite a 2d picture of a glass (with a good transparency matte) onto a BG plate shot. This could work great in the master. Also, rather than clamping the glass, what if you just put it on a thin platform (think waiter's tray). Then, just shoot the glass at a very slight high angle so the platform doesn't cover the glass (either infront or behind). Then you could use rough garbage mattes (or even a key if you really want) to get rid of the tray and the person holding it. Again, if you can get more specific on your shot, it'll help. Maybe even post 'boards in our new 'photo album' feature here at SF? Joren www.jorenclark.com"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few. " ~Shunryu Suzuki
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Yep, photo albumJoren www.jorenclark.com"In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few. " ~Shunryu Suzuki
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| Posts: 1742 | Location: HELL-A | Registered: March 05, 2003 |    |
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Whoa... slow down... If you are going the CG route, why would you take the harder method of keying the actor out instead of compositing the glassware in?
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