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Hey guys I was making my newest movie last night and I had to use two different cameras (long story). I tried getting the white balance as close as possible but I think they are slightly off. Normally it wouldn't matter, but they are shots that are back to back and I think it is noticeable. Is there anything in post (FCP) I can do to make them match better?

 
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Color corrector. Move around the midtones. That white balance seems a little too blue--try moving it into the red a little to counter it.
 
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If you have FCP 5, it will do it automatically with the color correctors (It's called auto-match hue) . I don't trust it completely, but it will get you very close to perfect.


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it's the mids. move it to the red.
 
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Does anyone know where i can find Gun flashes for that type of gun (or anything that is similar)?
 
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Detonation films.


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Wow, this one thread has been so valueble to me!! Thank you so much.

Can anyone give me a sound effect for a vampire changing into a bat.
 
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And whats the best way to match the clip above with this one while not loosing any quality

 
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...I'm confused about what you're asking now. Just do what we've been talking about. Use color correction to adjust the midtones so the clips all look the same.

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Can anyone give me a sound effect for a vampire changing into a bat.


You're kidding, right? That sound effect is so obscure I seriously doubt anyone can point you to a prerecorded clip. This is where you, the creative engine behind this project, comes up with things that sound like what you want it to sound like, and then records them using a microphone.
 
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Oh come one, you have never been near a cave of bats, recording audio, and then poof one of them changes into a vampire? Happens to me all the time Smile

Ok let me clarfiy the first question a little better. I did raise the midtones but the quality of the video seemed to deteriorate quite a bit. Any advice for that.

thanks Smile
 
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I'll just give it to you. Which image do you want to correct to the other? I'll give you both:

-Apply the 3-way color corrector to whatever clip you're changing (i.e. the look you don't like and want to correct to match the other shot).

-Double click on the clip to bring it to the viewer and click on "numeric" or just go to the filters tab in the viewer to access the values for the 3-way color corrector.

Now, if you are correcting the shot of Santa with a gun in front of the car, for Midrange controls, enter Angle = -52.15 , Magnitude = 6.62 and for Highlight Controls, enter Angle = -48.15 , Magnitude = 23.12

If you are correcting the shot of Santa on the ground to match Santa with a gun, enter Midrange Angle = 121.09 , Magnitude = 5.16 and Highlight Angle = 127.95 , Magnitude = 19.19

That should do it. I used Match Hue to get these values. By all means tweak them if you feel the need. Of course this won't change the differences in noise (AKA grain) between the two shots. And this won't change the difference in black levels between the two shots--but that's easily fixable with 3-way color corrector by adjusting the level in "blacks controls" (I'd go +/- ~13, depending on what clip you're adjusting to).

Hope this helps.


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is color correcting supposed to decrease the resolution of the picture?
 
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There is such a thing as "generation loss" where adding effects plugins, filters and the like gradually degrades the quality of the picture, but with digital video it's almost negligible. So no, not really, it shouldn't decrease the "resolution" of the picture. (resolution is the pixels in the picture and no matter what, stays at a constant 720x480 throughout the project. You're referring to picture quality).
 
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Which program are you doing this in? Some, like FCP, require rendering to see the color correction at full resolutiion.


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you can always select something that's supposed to be white in each shot & then move the color properties to match.
 
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