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Question: Does anyone know of a way in premiere to reduce or eliminate the hard "p" sound sometimes found in audio cuts? I recorded a vo (unfortunately, not on my studio mic, cause I didn't have access to it at the time), and I have noticed a couple of the "p" sounds are a little off.

Any suggestions (other than, well, re-recording the vo?)
 
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you could probably reduce it greatly by EQing it out, and maybe a slight downward compression.


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Thanks! One thing I found that works somewhat is to go into the individual frame and remove that particular frame (with the hard sound in it).

I can tell it has been removed (just because I am the one editing it), but I think I might be able to fool the audience into not even realizing something was removed at all. It happens so quickly.


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i remember Media100 editing machines had this audio plug in called a DePopper and a DeEsser, and it's pretty much a preset EQ filter that gets rid of harsh P's and S's.

it's quite handy, so someone online must have made a plug-in for Premiere by now that does the same things, just search for those names.
 
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Alternatively, you could go in and edit the "audio" only...

Look at the wave form and cut out the hard "P" sounds, then cut the file in half (give or take), then "time stretch" the first files edge to match the the frame (i.e.. the same frame that had the bad "P" sound). Then crossfade the files so there's no clicks....

BTW-- the reason you cut the file in half is so that you aren't stretching much of the good part of the file, you'll have to figure out the correct edit point.

So basically you are cutting out the bad portion and stretching the file back to the correct start point...

Make sense?



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Try a 2 frame audio dissolve as well.

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thanks for the extra suggestions. On the current project I am working on, I am not too concerned with it anymore, as the "frame cut" works pretty well (it only occured in a few places). However, I may intentionally record some plosive sounds, just to try these other ideas.

And Jay, it makes sense right now, but we will see how well I can make sense of it when I am actually trying to do it...


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No prob, actually let me see if I can be more clear.

Let's say the word in question is "potato"... I'll use these "|" to show edit points....

Here's the audio file: [I want to make a baked potato for dinner]


You would cut the file here to start: [I want to make a baked |p|otato for dinner] Now you have three files, still the same timing wise as the original.


The third cut would fall somewhere in the middle of the "P" more or less. Now you delete the bad "puh" sound...


What you are left with is half the "puh" sound. That second half would now be stretched to match the timecode where the other half would have started. this way you aren't stretching more of the "word" than you need to. Now you'd crossfade the three files so it's undetectable.... It'll all happen so fast in real time that you wont hear it.


Obviously this will only work if it's ADR. I should also mention that the best fix is to redo it in the beginning. Wink As well, put the mic a little off axis if you notice you are getting plosives. And you should always use a "pop screen" when doing ADR.

Hope that helps...

Jay

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Yeah, I was going to mention what Mr. Jay just said. You could use a commercial pop filter when recording, or you could go the cheap way and just use a few layers of fabric in front of the mic. That should avoid it in the first place.
 
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Mmmm, pantyhose.


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