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hi ppl!!

long time no been here around,,been working alot with visual art...

Cool to be back!

well im edithing a documentary on Pp v.1.5 and the only part that I have left is the audio...never work before with audio,I allways had ppl around who worked with this part of the postproduction.
Ive just been working with pictures and the visual part of the film so far...maybe now its time to learn more about it .....

Need som guide on premiere pro ty!!

have anice day ppl!
Ciao
K/ Smile
 
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What aspect do you need to know about? There's a lot to sound mastering, but here are a few basics:

Normalize. This brings soft audio to as loud as possible without going over. Good audio shouldn't change much, i.e. the number should be low. Right-click on all your audio tracks and click Audio level... then click the Normalize button. If the number changes from 0.0 to something else, you're good, click OK to apply that change. If not, you're probably clipping (meaning the track's audio is already at the max). Which means you need to...

Use a limiter. This truncates the waveform right below the red so you don't distort. For this I go to Audio Effects --> Dynamics and drag that onto the audio clip. Under the effects settings, I check the Soft Clip box. Don't check the limiter, that's a bit more advanced.

For dialogue, you probably want to use a compressor. This makes soft sounds louder and loud sounds softer so everything is a little more consistent. To apply one to a clip, go to Audio Effects --> Dynamics and drag it onto the clip. Check the Compressor box and play with the settings. My favorite is to set the threshold at -20dB and the ratio at 3 or 4 (meaning 3:1 or 4:1) and leave the attack and release settings alone. But play around with what you have, if things sound too compressed or not compressed enough, adjust the threshold until the right things are being brought to the right levels.

The expander does the exact opposite of a compressor: that is, it makes soft things softer and loud things louder. This can be helpful if you want to block out background noise when the dialogue isn't going on, but I've always used a noise removal program instead(SoundSoap works wonders, and even has a dialogue-specific option).

Hope this helps. Maybe I'll write an article about audio mastering and ask Chris to post it in the articles section.
 
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Thanks alouds Ben, really!!! i m going to try this first inthe morning, european time.

What I was also wondering about is about the sound mixer wind...(...)

My question is if u can master the audio from there? how does it work? there is a rec-botton down there on the wind..wondering if u can record a new sound or get better the audio overlaying a new one...? Wink

Ive been reading the "aumating audio changes onthe audio mixer wind" but doesn give a clear pix about the whole thing...dont know.. Frown

do u use that wind also to master audio and change levels? Roll Eyes

Ciao
K/
 
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I'm sorry, I can't really understand your English...what is "sound mixer wind"? I do appreciate the effort though. Let me see if I can try to understand what you mean. Do you mean wind noise? In which case you need to capture dead noise for a bit and then use it as background noise to overlay over dialogue...? But I don't know if that's what you're referring to.

Can you try to reword your question?
 
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sorry with my way to shorten the words.... Roll Eyes
"what is "sound mixer wind"?" I mean sound mixer window...u find it when u open the master-audio window.... Smile

K/
 
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Don't forget the lowpass filter. It will help eliminate any hiss you hear in the background. It saved me on my last film bigtime. You might also want to break the audio up so each character is on their own track. That way if you need to fix anything you can zero in what needs to be fixed and leave the good audio alone.
 
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Ahh...the audio mixer window. It's sole purpose is to control audio levels. It also has the record button if you want to record voiceovers onto tracks, like you mentioned. Click the microphone button on a track to enable it for recording.

Basically the pull-down menu allows you to choose how Premiere controls the volume. I believe "touch" means that you press record, then play, and as the movie plays you can adjust the volume controls, and these values are recorded onto the track so Premiere mimicks your volume control movements. Read up on the help menu about those selections, although I don't use them, I just keyframe manually.

mikester191 brings up a good point in using a lowpass. Dialogue always has a higher EQ edge to it. If you want to increase clarity as well, try a 6db boost at 10k using the parametric EQ.
 
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ty some much about all yr replies ppl
!!! cool!
Im already edithing the sound and learning more about sound...

Something weird happened though doing a copy, just to make a sound check....

WEll on some scenes the beginning is low and then suddenly the level goes up again normally, according to premiere pro, it shouldnt be any low-level @ this part of the film...funny Eek dont know what it'd be?

Have a nice day!
K/

does any body here has experinced this before? Roll Eyes
 
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Excellent information. I just wanted to say, while we are on the topic, have you conisdered writing a full article on the sound mixing process? It would be extremely helpful. Just throwing that out there, good luck on the film Krapola.


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I think I probably will, once I get the time and make sure I fully understand the process myself. It'd help me write an article that I know would be easiest to understand as a student.
 
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