Well...I never thought I'd see the day that I'd use FCP, but I'm cutting a feature and it's driving me bananas. (I'm an Avid guy through and through)

Does anyone know how to slip a shot numerically with the four up display like on an Avid? (I can't stand slipping with the slip tool - it's not accurate - I hate editing with a mouse)

How do I slip a shot in FCP using the keyboard only? It's driving me nuts.

Thanks guys.

-Chris
Studentfilms.com

CHRIS! ONLY 12 posts to go before 1k!

anyways, I don't know what your talking about. So if you can whats a slip shot?

Slipping a shot is when you keep the shot the same duration in the timeline, but you just change the contents of it slightly.

i.e. - you make the original inpoint earlier or later without having to cut the shot back in again.

For example, if I had a shot of a movement such as swinging a bat, and the shot started to far into the swing I could slip the shot back to put in the full swing but still keep the shot in the sequence the same length.

It's much easier to show than explain, but I think that's the best that I can do for an explanation now.

-Chris
Studentfilms.com

I don't know how to do it numerically, there probably is a way. But here's a good tip. First make sure snapping is off (press Y to toggle) then start slipping it with the slip tool, and hold down command right after you start dragging. It puts it in slow mode, where its very easy to do it frame by frame, and a little tool-tip appears with the + or - time-code in it.

command works on anything you can drag by the way, even color corrector wheels.

Cool. I'll try that.

-Chris
Studentfilms.com

Also, in Media Composer, when in trim mode...when you preview the edit and then hit the in or out button, it will move the transition to that point. It's so you can change the edit point on the fly?

Is there a way to do that on FCP?

-Chris
Studentfilms.com

No i don't think there's a way to change the inpoint like that. i don't think there's a way to numerically sslip the content either, just when you click on it it will tell you how many frames you are moving in either direction.

Final cut isn't keyboard heavy, it's mouse/graphic heavy, which makes guys like me love it, and really hate avid and the way everything is done by numbers. i really really like the graphic interface, and it's a lot easier to picture everything.

FCP also doesn't have all the sub-menus/options/customization Composer has, but then again, almost everything in Final Cut is already laid out the way i would do it myself.

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Originally posted by RFranco:

Final cut isn't keyboard heavy, it's mouse/graphic heavy, which makes guys like me love it, and really hate avid and the way everything is done by numbers. i really really like the graphic interface, and it's a lot easier to picture everything.

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That's funny...that's exactly the reason why I can't stand final cut and I love Avid. I'm a keyboard person - I hardly use the mouse on an Avid. I find that I can edit much faster that way. Plus it allows you to edit via picture and sound, not via pointing and clicking. It's more organic editing with a keyboard. Maybe it's because I learned to edit on a linear tape to tape system and on a flatbed and I like my hands on the controls.



To each their own.

-Chris
Studentfilms.com

Avid vs. FCP: The Ultimate nerd's un-winnable argument.

Yup. I think I'm going to have to go out and get that FCP for Avid editors book. Can't wait to get back onto my Avid.

-Chris
Studentfilms.com

LOL! I had no idea they had such a book. Did you stick that sheet of stickers that FCP comes with to your keyboard? It might help

Yeah - they have them already on the system here. I've already customized the keyboard to make it more like my Avid setup.

I just got the book today on my way to work. I'll let everyone know if it is any good!

-Chris
Studentfilms.com

FCP actually has a lot of keyboard usage, in fact I do most of my edits with the keyboard, the trick is learning them. I have used both AVID and FCP and I used to love avid way more. I was so anti final cut but once I took the time to learn the interface I ended up swtiching completely. Not only did I switch editing software but I switched OS'S completely and now am an "AVID" apple supporter hehe do you like my clever little pun there?

I'm pretty sure you gotta use the slip tool (with the mouse) to do slip edits. the keyboard is a much faster way to get clips onto the timeline. But tweaking them is normally faster using the mouse. (keeping one had for keys, of course).
Chris, I've heard great things about that book. Even though I'm sure you never want to leave your beloved avid, I'm curious how the book helps you adapt to FCP.

From reading it just a little it seems like an advertisement for Apple. That being said it is very helpful.

The most hilarious thing is the comparison chart between Avid and FCP at the end. It is so biased. Most of the things that they say you can't do on an Avid you can.

I teach Avid here in Hollywood occasionally and I even used to work for them in Boston. I'm a little biased..but hey...it is interesting to learn a new piece of software.

I'd be cutting alot quicker if I could be using my Avid though...doh.

I'm an Avid Apple user too. I love Macs and I love Avid.

-Chris
Studentfilms.com

just one question..

why are you using final cut pro.