I had a short debate at my lunch table at school about who would be whom in a fight. i said superman, but then someone braught up the fact that bruce wayne is rich and could get kryptonite. its lame, but i was just wondering what u guys thought.

Have you ever read the Dark Night Returns? Pretty much the same thing you're talking about.

this happened in the comics already, batman won.

plus superman asked batman to kill him if he ever lost control and there's a future version of a comic book where batman kills him.

how the hell did batman win? batman sucks. im sorry, he just does

BATMAN ROCKS!

He has no weaknesses other then being human.
With Superman all you have to do is find a glowing green rock and he dies. And seriously, who has the better costume? Batman.

Without his super powers Superman is nothing.

But even if Batman doesn't have his gadgets or money, he's still got ingenuity and stealth training.

Batman would and always will win.

I totally agree with forsaken. Batman is simply smarter than superman. He would find some way to kill him with cryptonite.

I gotta go with Batman too, he's just got great character, and is so kick-*** that no one could beat him.

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Originally posted by alex c:
how the hell did batman win? batman sucks. im sorry, he just does

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he had a special suit made, like Iron Man, that gives him the strength to hurt/get hit by superman, and the suit has kryptonite in it so every punch weakeness him.

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The police have closed in on The Tunnel of Love, where Batman lies waiting. He has placed incendiaries in the tunnel. He "wastes one second... with a good-bye" for the Joker, and spits on him. The police find the Joker's body, and as they touch it, it ignites. Yindel finds Batman, and tells him to freeze - so Batman punches her in the face, and takes her gun. Batman is delirious now - he wants the Joker to stop laughing... As a SWAT team moves in, Batman calls Robin to bring in the chopper. He decides to go full forces against the SWAT team, as they're armoured. He plants some explosives on the wall.. and doesn't hit the target. The police figure he's shotting at them, so the order is "shoot to Kill." Finally, Batman hits the plastique, and the roof falls in. Robin saves him, and takes him back to the Cave.

As Bruce and Clark are talking the next day, Reagan appears on TV. The US have won, but apparently the Soviets are poor losers, and have launched a nuclear attack. Clark leaps away, to stop the warhead. The warhead is more than a nuke, though - it is designed to send out a large magnetic pulse. Suddenly, the warhead explodes, and all electronics in the US are stopped. Batman talks to himself, wondering if Clark paid attention to this sort of thing. Batman has - so he and Robin head for the stables, to get horses.

Jim Gordon was out buying groceries when the pulse hit. And as everyone stood in the streets, a plane crashed into Gotham. The Sons of Batman decide that now is the time to raze Gotham, to cleanse it of crime. But Batman shows up on the scene, and tells them to stop. He promises to teach them a more quiet cleanup - one with fists and brains, not guns. Gordon helps organize people on the street to put out the fires, and to help the wounded. But he can't find Sarah...

The nuclear blasts send up so much dust into the atmosphere that it blocks the sun - and blocks Superman's source of power. The people of Gotham go crazy, looting, fighting for food. Until Batman and the Sons of Batman appear. The fights end, and order is built. But there is no morning for the city to wake up to - a nuclear winter has set in.

Reagan and Superman Clark are meeting, and Clark tells Reagan the he doesn't think that Batman will let Superman bring him in alive. And Oliver Queen shows up at Bruce's house. Oliver has lost an arm, thanks to Superman, and wants to help Batman. Oliver tells Bruce how he should have kept a quiet presence, like him, instead of being such a big target. Now they will have to kill Bruce to quiet him. Oliver explains, "I always knew it'd get down to you and the big blue schoolboy. Planet's too big for the two of you. When it all comes down, I want a piece of him.

As Bruce teaches Robin how to ride a horse, a blast of heat comes from the sky, leaving one word in fire: Where?. So Bruce looks up into the sky, and replies, "Crime Alley." Batman gets ready for the final showdown, and takes a pill, to cause death in one hour. The police and army cordon off Crime Alley, and the media is not sure why - are the police closign in on Batman, or will there be a showdown?

Batman shows up in his tank, and shoots rockets at Superman, to see if he's back to full strength, after loosing almost all his powers when the sun disappeared. He's not, so Batman enjoys watching Superman get hurt. Meanwhile, Alfred sets the Batcave to self-destruct. Batman plugs into the city's power supply, and fires a sonic pulse at Superman, enough to cause Superman to bleed. Batman has chosen Crime Alley as the place to end his life - the place where his parents died. Bruce shocks Superman with the electricity, but gets a lot of feedback - which starts to weaken his heart. Batman is wearing a strength-enhancing suit, and starts pummeling Superman. Superman is upset, telling Bruce to stop and live. Batman answers him:

You sold us out, Clark. You gabe them the power that should have been ours. Just like your parents taught you to. My parents taught me a different lesson... lying on the street, shaking in deep shock, dying for no reason at all. They showed me that the world only makes sense when you force it to

[Batman vs Superman]Then Oliver Queen shows up, and fires a kryptonite arrow at Superman. It really weakens Superman. He's still worried about Bruce's heart, though. Batman scorns his concern, saying "You're beginning to get the idea, Clark. This is the end, for both of us. We could have changed the world, now, look at us; I've become a political liability, and you, you're a joke." And as Batman really starts slugging him, he says, "I want you to remember, Clark... in all the years to come... in your most private moments... I want you to remember my hand at your throat... I want you to remember the one man who beat you..." And then Batman died. As Alfred stood outside Wayne Manor, he had a stroke, and the Cave blew up.

Bruce Wayne's funeral. Bruce has been revealed to have been Batman. The cave was destroyed, hiding his methods, and his fortune is missing. Clark and Carrie are attending his funeral - and people can't believe that Clark came - "can't believe he had the nerve." As as Clark walks away, he hears a heart start beating, and gets a smile on his face. Bruce decides that as long as he and Robin stay quiest, Superman will leave them alone.

Later, in the cave, past the burnt out section, Bruce kneels with Robin and the Sons of Batman. His plan, which will takes years of training and studying, is to build an army, to bring sense to a world plagued by worse than thieves and murderers. He decides that this will be a good life - good enough.

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that's where batman wins.

and the one in the future was a mini-epic that happened in DC after the whole Eclipso crossover i think.

anyway, someone from the future comes back and says that a superhero goes crazy and destroys the world, and he must find out who it is. so for every superhero, he looks into their future to see if they're the one. he peers into superman's future, and realizes he asks batman to kill him if anything ever happens, so it's not superman or batman. it ends up being like Hawk from hawk and dove or something. i forget.