ok. here i go. to see how this all started go to http://forums.studentfilms.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=2086066451&f=1486066451&m=937108836 and http://forums.studentfilms.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=2086066451&f=1486066451&m=990101446

now. am i stupid in thinking that instead of throwing ur rights in everybody face maybe we, as a society, could just kinda, relax?

maybe we'd know when to say "no prob man" and when to say "dude i hav a right man!"

there are plenty of times to stand up for what u hav a right to do, but there are other times when we as people need to just stop and show a little compassion for people "stepping on our rights"

unless someone is arguing w/ u. then u just need to argue back cause that's what makes having an opinion fun.

anyway knowing when to get all defensive and when to not is a judgement call, but im sure we could work it out if we just could try to be a little more...relaxed, yes?

anyway post ur thoughts on my reactions. note that i got a little defensive cause TD can be a bit of a michael moore or a charlton heston.

cause TD can be a bit of a michael moore or a charlton heston.

wtf! which AM i? they're pretty diferent? i'd prefer to be Moore. Heston's creepy.

LOL...

I think your reactions were just a tad melodramatic....

Who cares about politics, stereotypes, etc.?
( However, You did have valid points )

We should leave this kind of talk to the people at CNN, while we tlk about more important things...LIKE FILM!


(And the most important question of all...
Who is more sexy... Britney....or Christina...?
LOL

"(And the most important question of all...
Who is more sexy... Britney....or Christina...?
LOL "

I personally don't thnk Britney is that attractive and/or talented.

But anyway. You should NEVER let anyone infringe upon your rights. Your rights exist so you can never be treated unjustly. I feel the only way your rights can be repealed is if you misuse them.

But if your filming somewhere and someone asks you to leave, you can say, "no." under these conditions: You are not disrupting traffic, and you are not a safety hazard.

Anyone who tells you to leave for other then those reasons is on a powertrip.

Yes there is a point where one can be a butt hole, and take their rights too far, at that point, we need to chill.

now hld on...i think i figured it out. why did i get so pouncy and assume td was generalizing americans?

i mean "dumb american" is only an adjective followed by a group of people right? its like saying something as harmless as "lazy n*gger" or "uptight jew" o we're not "generalizing..." just saying adjectives and groups of people.....

seriously though people can u guys see the hostility that came out of me hearing the adjective "dumb" and group of people "american?"

i didn't know u were american td, for all i knew u were...not, yes?

anyway if anyone is still reading this then maybe ive explained my HORRID behavior in those couple of threads and we can go back to enjoying my witty posts

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i mean "dumb american" is only an adjective followed by a group of people right? its like saying something as harmless as "lazy n*gger" or "uptight jew" o we're not "generalizing..." just saying adjectives and groups of people.....

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basically, though lazy n***er is extremly rascist and disrespectful, uptight Jew is also, shall we say, a TAD uncool. however, IF i were a Jew or an African American it wouldn't be rascist to say those things about myself and my people (IMHO).

You know how blacks (the new generation) call each other n***er - but if i called someone that i'd get beaten up? it's the same kind of thing.

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seriously though people can u guys see the hostility that came out of me hearing the adjective "dumb" and group of people "american?"

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yes - i did see it...

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i didn't know u were american td, for all i knew u were...not, yes?

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that's a good reason to get defensive - if you felt someone from another country were attacking the US - but ... not quite right in this instance

anyone with 111 posts has been here long enough to know about the location tags under our posts. btw, you don't have yours filled out... where are you from?

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anyway if anyone is still reading this then maybe ive explained my HORRID behavior in those couple of threads and we can go back to enjoying my witty posts

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thanks for admitting it - you've seen the error of your ways and that's all anyone could ask for

basically "dumb american" is extremely nationalist td, and i dont care who says it.

now, i hate america as much as the next freedom loving american, so maybe i get defensive for american cause no one else will, i do the same thing around people who think america is like the best and everyone else sucks and all that when there aren't any people w/ different beliefs around.

did i forget to mention that? i guess that's my "thang." just take the other side to get things "riled up"

the funny thing is i usually get REALLY into it too. i mean i created an entire thread for it.

anyway ive never gotten as hostile on these forums (i think i got on somebody else for calling americans nazis) as i have these couple times - its only in the interest of argument.

have fun, and remember this next time i yell at u td

or maybe ill just shut up and let group mentality rule...

I love America, its the Americans I hate!

(see my location!)

Seriously though, represent. Americans can call Americans dumb, and Frenchies can call each other eunuchs. But if an american calls a Frenchie a eunuch, oh, man, you better watch out! People need to chill and learn to poke fun at eachother.
(My Democrat friends call me a Vast Right Wing Conspirator and I call them Pinko Commies, but its all in good fun!)
But whenever someone calls me a stupid american in a hateful way, oh man, better watch out for my fist, cause its breakin' your nose! Same goes for Italians, I'll have the mafia down on you so fast, man.

BTW, theres a French dude in one of my classes, I call him a eunuch. (He's not). And he calls me fat American (Even though I'm the skinniest guy in the class).

And theres also a Russian girl I know. She always used to threaten the KGB on me, and I always used to threaten the Italian Mafia. More fun!

An African American calls me Wigger, and I call him Negro! Playin around.

I also joke with my hispanic friends, I call them wetbacks, stupid mexicans, and all that. They call me things I don't want to repeat. But we all have fun and laugh at the stereotypical names we can call each other. We have never been mad at each other for calling each other names. But when a conversation turns serious we drop the name calling, and talk serious.

So I guess my point is chill out. We're all the same human race, let's have some fun.

P.S. Note my signature!

with this new insight into your personality and "who cares!" attitude forsaken, i've decided you have quite possibly the best outlook on life of anyone i know

i forgive you for being a kerry-hating, gun-loving, republican extremist from arizona

(and tc - before you give me a flying tackle - i'm kidding and forsaken dosn't care! )

"i'm kidding and forsaken dosn't care! "


yup.

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Originally posted by Forsakenproductions:

I also joke with my hispanic friends, I call them wetbacks, stupid mexicans, and all that. They call me things I don't want to repeat.

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Forsaken, you are a vast right wing conspirator. But that is beside the point. The point is, how could you have said all of those racist slurs and still be embarresed about what someone has called you? That's the most racist thing about your post.
Allow me to try to clarify. You said what you said, I heard, "There were niggers, kikes, spicks, chinks, dago wops, and some white guys (oh, I just can't say whitey/cracker/honkey, that's just racist.)"
If that didn't do it then let me say, it's just not cool to say the equivelant of ****, ****, and *****, but then be shy to say damn. My point, what do they call you?

-Elliott

Cracker, wigger,

(in german animal parts are huge insults)
Horse-ass, pig brain, basically any part you can think of.

(In spanish)
La migra, (equivalence to animal parts), stuff like that, I don't want to repeat it, is that wrong? Also, I don't even know how to say most of them myself.

Stupid Fat American, stupid white man.

You name a white man insult, I've been called it. But I don't care. Its all in good fun.

You missed the point of my post. Read it again.

We call each other names in good fun. We laugh at the creative generalities that have evolved over the years. We don't mean any of it. However, if we are in a serious conversation or out in public, we refrain from using such words, because someone around us might get offended.

Its when the words are used hatefully and meant to hurt that I get mad. Like my last post says, chill man.

Just because we are in a debate in another thread, please refrain from attacking me on generalities I make in different threads like this one.
HDK and I have been in the political debate since it first began, but outside of that thread we treat each other like that debate never happened unless we make a joke reference. I suggest you act in the same manner.

Again, chill.

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anyone with 111 posts has been here long enough to know about the location tags under our posts. btw, you don't have yours filled out... where are you from?

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fine i will fill them out...

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with this new insight into your personality and "who cares!" attitude forsaken, i've decided you have quite possibly the best outlook on life of anyone i know

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but i......i was like

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have fun, and remember this next time i yell at u td

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see i even put the wink at the end...i feel...left out

Don't feel left out, your just temporarily on teh edge of the circle. Don't worry, you'll make it back in, buddy.

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Originally posted by Forsakenproductions:
Cracker, wigger,

(in german animal parts are huge insults)
Horse-ass, pig brain, basically any part you can think of.

(In spanish)
La migra, (equivalence to animal parts), stuff like that, I don't want to repeat it, is that wrong? Also, I don't even know how to say most of them myself.

Stupid Fat American, stupid white man.

You name a white man insult, I've been called it. But I don't care. Its all in good fun.

You missed the point of my post. Read it again.

We call each other names in good fun. We laugh at the creative generalities that have evolved over the years. We don't mean any of it. However, if we are in a serious conversation or out in public, we refrain from using such words, because someone around us might get offended.

Its when the words are used hatefully and meant to hurt that I get mad. Like my last post says, chill man.

Just because we are in a debate in another thread, please refrain from attacking me on generalities I make in different threads like this one.
HDK and I have been in the political debate since it first began, but outside of that thread we treat each other like that debate never happened unless we make a joke reference. I suggest you act in the same manner.

Again, chill.

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Don't worry man, I got the point you were getting, it's just your other post made it seem like the point was that it was wrong to repeat words like whitey/honky/cracker, and what not. I understand it's all in good fun, but I couldn't understand why you didn't want to repeat even those words in good fun. But, I understand now they were just calling you names in their own language, fine.
You still are a vast right wing conspirator, though. Heh.

-Elliott

HAHAHAHA, and I still think your a pinko Commie, but that doesn't mean we can't be friends right?

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[QUOTE]have fun, and remember this next time i yell at u td

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alright, alright - but i have some advice for you, which is to tone down your arguments just a little as they seem to be getting you into a tad of trouble.

don't feel left out! you're on the edge of the circle guarding it from random passers-by - it is a noble duty!

aight then