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Kris, very nice stuff indeed. Good job. Hows about some technical info. What was it shot on? How much was the budget? ect. All in all very nice though. R. Michael "Luck, is when opportunity, meets preperation." "There are 3 sides to every story. Yours, mine, and the truth, and none of us are lying" -Robert Evans Tizzy Entertainment "Redemption" Hi-Def trailer
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| Posts: 1534 | Location: WPB, Florida | Registered: November 22, 2002 |    |
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This was a promotional peice that was for a place here in Birmingham Al. called the American Village. http://www.americanvillage.org. The budget for pricipal was around seven grand, so we had some room to play with. This was actually shot on the XL1, with the maual lense attachment. Our company really strive to see how far we can push the XL1. We shoot all formats, but we own 3XL1's so we like to keep cost's down by using what we have. I have come to conclude that in some shots with the XL1, (I know this sounds crazy, and some of you will stone me for it) you can atleast make your frame look like at least HD. I mean you cant tell me that the XL1 was you first choice of what camera we used for that shot. As for lighting, well since we were using the XL1, we didnt have to incorperate too many big lights. Mostly just lit with 1k's, 1,200k's, and 575's (hmi of course) There was one night shot that I lit through trees, and threw us a 4k on risers, but that was about it for light. We used alot of dolly and Jib work, and we also had a couple of hellicopter shots, which our pilot got in trouble with the FAA when he buzzed a couple of cows in a feild. But hey, whats the fun in a shoot with out buzzing a couple of cows eh? Also since it was a promo peice, we had another day where we shot ENG B-Roll. All in All, we had a good time making it, and the costomer loved it. "Pain is temporary, Film is forever"-Peter Jackson http://www.ErwinBrothers.com
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| Posts: 325 | Location: United States | Registered: June 12, 2003 |    |
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Thats me, but I promise I dont have a facination with myself...lol...I put it there so you can connect with who your talking to. But...I dont think its coming off that way! Ha Ha "Pain is temporary, Film is forever"-Peter Jackson http://www.ErwinBrothers.com
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| Posts: 325 | Location: United States | Registered: June 12, 2003 |    |
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No Ive used the XL1 with prime lnses and filter so I can see how thats XL1 grabs. From what I see you will LOVE what the DVX100 does. It takes your hard work and just amplifies the look. Greta job though, very well done. Descent budget too. The afore mentioned XL1/Prime lense shoot was for a music video, that we blew up to 35mm. The budget was $5,000 and that INCLUDED blow up, so im sure $7,000 gave you some descent wiggle room. R. Michael "Luck, is when opportunity, meets preperation." "There are 3 sides to every story. Yours, mine, and the truth, and none of us are lying" -Robert Evans Tizzy Entertainment "Redemption" Hi-Def trailer
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| Posts: 1534 | Location: WPB, Florida | Registered: November 22, 2002 |    |
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Kris, this looks absolutely amazing! Great work! I very much like your approach of balancing to tungsten for exterior work, and daylight for interior. The lighting is very effective. I like the streams through the windows. Any reason you left it out of the far window in grab #2? If I had to guess (Based on my low-budget experience, which is all I have) i'd think that there wasn't a matching HMI available, but I just wanted to know if you had reasons for really wanting it free of glow. I still think the XLs have the most natural slope in the highlight region of the prosumer cameras. I hope I can test it against the DVX at some point. Nota "Wants to see more... MORE!!!  " Mono
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| Posts: 665 | Location: Los Angeles, Ca. U.S.A. | Registered: October 31, 2002 |    |
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Well it was a 7,000 budget. We had only one 1200 for the shoot. We had a 4000, but that was sooo much more light, so we had to make something work. We had hoped that people would have there eye attracted to the center portion of the room with the light through the window. Good Eye...I was wondering who would be the first! "Pain is temporary, Film is forever"-Peter Jackson http://www.ErwinBrothers.com
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| Posts: 325 | Location: United States | Registered: June 12, 2003 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by MeGrimlock: Honestly though, why would you care that that one window was missing a light?
The problem is that it gives away the fact that the light is coming from.... a light (As opposed to coming from the sun). In a perfect world DP's can justify all light, and lack thereof if they want. In a world with restrictions (Such as $7,000 budgets) it doesn't always work that way. I've sooo been there trying to gel large tungstens and revive the crappy broken HMI's the rental houses give low-budget productions to get that 2nd window to match  . Nota "Rarely get's a $7,000 budget  " Mono
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| Posts: 665 | Location: Los Angeles, Ca. U.S.A. | Registered: October 31, 2002 |    |
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Actually megrimlock, think about the picture...infact go up and look at it. What is the light portraying? Well, its portraying sunlight outside. Look at the window to the left...no sunlight peering through. This is obviously because of budget. I would know, I was the DP. I didnt have another 1200 to pop up behind that window. Fortunately to the untrained eye, you look right at the girl, and thats what I wanted, but to Nota, who is a trained DP, is looking at it from a continuity perspective, and well it just doesnt make sense. You cant focus the sun through one window, it just doesnt make sense. If the sun was out the way it is portrayed through the middle window, it would do the same through all the windows. "Pain is temporary, Film is forever"-Peter Jackson http://www.ErwinBrothers.com
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| Posts: 325 | Location: United States | Registered: June 12, 2003 |    |
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