Hey,
Michael told me to let you all know that his new article is up on my site because he thought you'd want to check it out. Anyway, the site url is http://www.college-film.com and the article is in the articles section.

While you are there please look around and join the message board. I don't want to pull you away from here, but please make some time for my site.

Your always posting your site on here, but you have never gave us a reason to why we should spend our time on your site. Market yourself man... studentfilms is a kick ass site and has everything a filmmaker needs (except tutorials!!)
I have checked out your site and didn't find anything I needed so you need to convince people.

"Everything you know is wrong"

- disinfo.com

I find it a bit hard to be a constant visitor to more than one forum. I only just recently decided to focus my attention on Studentfilms.com, because I like the setup. Every time someone posts something new, it is up on the homepage for me to see. I don't have to go searching in the forums for it.

I joined your site, Christian, but I won't be such a frequent member. I expect most of the people in here feel that way, too (correct me if I'm wrong). For the most part, advertising for a film site ON another film site won't do much, since the people who see the ad will already be adapted to the site they are at while reading it. That sounded really confusing...

I think it is good to point out that your site is up, but you should try to draw people's attention from elsewhere, also. To me, it is a bad idea to advertise for something on a site that has the same kind of product (like going to a website for Visa and seeing an ad for American Express). If you are going to keep on posting about college-film.com, then use persuasion techniques and offer us something. Sorry if this is all really hard to understand; I am bad at putting my thoughts into words...

Ive got articles there. LOL Good enough?

As for time on forums and such, I am a pretty active member here, but also an active member in about 6 other forums, and numerous other film making sites. I like what i do, and there are lots of sites outt here that can help us master this craft. Even if you dont join the site, check out the articles at College films. (and not just mine) There are some good ones there. If you have thoughts/questions about information you recieve there, hit their forums, and post it. No reason you cant have more than one resource on line to gain film making know how from.
In closeing, part 1 and 2 of my articles are both on the site, and you can expect part 3 in the next couple months.
R. Michael

And you shall know us by the trail of dead.

I haven't been trying to convince you all so much because Chris was nice enough to let me advertise here and I don't want to steal his members but share them. Also, your point about not advertising on a film site is all wrong. First, a film site is where the target audience is so thats where you advertise. Second, studentfilms is not the competition, but just another extension of our film community so we should be able to share visitors.

Finally, if you want a reason to come over that's easy. We are a new site just starting out so we are looking for people to submit films, scripts, bios, reviews of short films and feature length films. All of our services are free and we are much more of a community effort because not only do we have student films, but we also have student scripts, bios, reviews and articles. We are a much more in-depth resource and have a much bigger catalogue of useful links for filmmakers. That's all I have off the top of my head, but I think it is enough.
http://www.college-film.com

Also, if you feel that my site is missing something please post it in the comments space on my message board and I'll look into adding it.

Thank you for the reasons on why we should join. And I understand what you mean. I wasn't saying you were trying to steal people from this site, but you have brought up college-film.com enough times. Maybe it's just harder for me to be part of so many forums, because I'm so young and stupid.

Tizzy I am gonna check out your article right now , only due to the fact that you have always posted intelligent articles on this forum.

Chris as for your site, it has nothing I can benefit from, I go to studentfilms to see what my competition is like and what neat stuff they are doing... I don't need to go read bad scripts bios etc of students... I don't benefit there. I am not saying my **** is awesome, but were all students trying to make... I waste enough time as is on studentfilms.. I do'nt need any more distractions!!!

"Everything you know is wrong"

- disinfo.com

You don't like college films.com? You can't learn anything there? What are you the all-knowing film master? Damn let me know, because I only wish I could go to that site and know absolutely everything on there and have the ability to say something like..."I can't benefit from that site". So please, tell me your secrets of knowing everything on the site. Oh and last time I checked...you were not a member on that site? So how could you have participated on their film forums? Hmmmmmmmmmmm...

Everything I know is damn well right.

Besides filming, the only other thing I ever did good was filming.

Let's not get into a huge conflict over this. But The Mind has a point. Irony, you are only here to see what your competition is like? Competition? The entire filmmaking community isn't one big contest...It's about expressing your ideas on film and inspiring others to do the same. But I'm not going to argue with you about college-film.com. You can do whatever you want. I just want to know what's wrong with Studentfilms...Sure, we're all ameteurs and we definitely don't have perfect scripts/acting/everything, but nobody our age does! It's all part of the learning process in my oppinion.

U can think of it as whatever you like, "the mind"... I already said I am no master either when it comes to film , so stop with all your crap.

I am just simply pointing out that their is nothing on college film that will benefit me that I can't get from studentfilms, why is that such a problem? I actually told this guy to find a tactic or technique for his site that will make us to come there.. something that studentfilms doesn't offer...

I don't know why you have to freak out over that, you seem to ***** a lot about that kinda stuff, especially when it comes to criticism.. you need to take it easy and worry about films.. not about me and my opinions on a college-film site.

I think its sad that I have to even respond to stupid posts like this... no point in arguing over anything here.. I hope this cleared things up for you!

Oh and about the whole community thing? Umm I am not here to make life long friends and share my feelings... I don't know any of you people.. you could all be a bunch of bull****ters or big movie stars... and I am sorry if it hurts your feelings that I come on here to learn things, and benefit my own movie making.. it is a competition whether you like it or not!
And if I have an answer to a question.. I'll help somebody out. That's as far as my community lifestyle will go...
Man the internet is the curse of it all I tell you

Yeah, that's all I was looking for. Just a little explanation I suppose. I just think it's important to go to all the sites, you learn more that way. More opinions are great! there's a lot of different ways to skin a cat.

Besides filming, the only other thing I ever did good was filming.

...*exits the forum*

In regards to offering you stuff that you can't get on here here is a quick list: Myself and a couple other top reviewers are film studies students who spend everyday studying film theory and criticism so are reviews and articles are based on actual knowledge and not opinion, which means you will will receive a much better critique of your film and those of others and our member articles, which is not even a section on here, are based on this same knowledge and offers a lot of important important. Our link catalogue is also much more exstensive. You don't have to read the bios or scripts, but you can post yours to have them properly reviewd.

In all honesty I really don't care if you prefer this site to mine, but don't post messages that discourage others from looking into other possibilities. This is a great site and if you are happy just coming here then great. I just offer an alternative.
I realize that there was no need to drag this argument on, bur I love a good debate.

who the f#$@! is Tizzy and who cares if you have an article by him on your site?

from all that i can tell, this Tizzy person has no student films on this site, and while he may have some humble knowledge, his website sucks butt! pop-ups galore.

i need more convincing to link on to your site then this boss.

studentfilms.com is dope and i'm a crack addict. a loyal one.

I'll make this quick...

1.) Tizzy is dope & that's not his website
2.) You have 2 post
3.) You are an idiot, leave the site now if this is a preview of what's to come.

Besides filming, the only other thing I ever did good was filming.

man that's funny sorry,

"Everything you know is wrong"

- disinfo.com

hey rabbit,
If you read more than the first posting then you'll see what my site has got.

hey mind,

i wasn't referring to the college-film site as Tizzy's. I was referring the html hell that wants to be more as Tizzy's site his portfolio website.

your films are tight if not tepid - stories are cute and in high disney form. with your safe ideas you should get a job in the industry in no time.

i have only one complaint about Toby - the scenes were edited way too long. the whole product shot of Fifty/50's tape in the boom box was wearing thin after the first 30 seconds you went in for the kill.

as for the acting, didn't see anyone expressing troubled inner demons. just saw a tired kid with a nagging dog. all in all though your films are put together tight and polished ready for consumption. the camera work is clean and plain - which says one thing - you know how to make something unnatural (a set) look natural. kudos to you homeboy.

script seemed like it was improved but not spontaneous. acting was stilted. find real actors. you'll be surprised by how much more a real actor adds to your project, boss. The whole one man team is not cool. find a producer, find an editor, find people to work with. anything to bring up your already good production values.

and as far as leaving the boards. hell no. i love this ****.

and i cannot think tizzy for schnizzle wizzle is dope until i see a film of his. and i ain't about to travel to some hick town to pay to see a bunch of bad shorts.

Wow some nice sentiments to a guy that has gone out of his way to help little brats like you understand how the hell to turn you f#ck'n camera on!

Step one: Think of brilliant high concept film about a high school kid learning to tie his shoelace... "No I d don't need a script it's all in my head. I'm the best since whoever?"

Step two: Thoughts of all the festival wins! Front page of Filmmaker Magazine! Maybe I'll right a book?


"One question though..." "What's the best way to turn my camera on.... and by the way, can I use my moms camcorder for 35 mm blow up, and what software do I need to download from kazza to do that? What do you mean sound, sound doesn't matter... this a movie you idiot! Besides, there's a mic in the camcorder, isn't there? ADR? What's that?"


"I don't care about all that bull sh!t, I just want to make a GREAT film for $3... you know, something that will be way better than any of that sh!t coming out of Hollywood. Those fools could stand to learn a thing or two from ME. I mean, I've been a film maker for two weeks now! So what if I don't use a script, I'm an artist".....


Yep kid, you got it all figured out....