Ok you guys saw the clip... saw the stills.. now you can see the trailer.
There is alos a little lesson in movie larketting here.
You will notice the trailer is not what you might typically see in a movie theater. There is little to no explanation of the story ect. This is intentional. This trtailer was cut specifically for AFM (the American Film Market)
For those who don't know AFM is where most films are aquired by studios and distributors and then put out accordingly. Vendors get boothas and set up shop, then buyers from all over the world come to see what you have and negotiate for the rights. You could sell your world rights to one distributor, or act as your own distributor and and sell off individual territories for your film (IE: You could sell the cable rights and video rights to one distributor in Malasia) Getting in isn't cheap. It costs to play.. is it worth it.... I will tell you next month LOL
Now we have also opted to be part of their trailers showcase where they play the trailer for our feature in three locations. The main lobby of the hotel, the shuttles that take people from the market to and from parking and most importantly... in the buyers room.
As a result.. we selected the "Money shots" or the stuff that seemed to have the most production value.. Helicopter shots of boats, planes, DEA agents raiding a hanger ect.. (every shot in the trailer and the film we shot ourselves right down to timelapse transition shots.. no stock footage used other then our own) Also the font color and size for the title was made plain intentionally as well. We have a 1:30 slot and the trailer is .45 so it will air back to back twice 3 times an hour. This way the title gets shown 6 times and hour and with the simple black an white the title is visible from accross the room whenever it shows. The rooms are literally lined with plasmas.. so the title will be plastered on the wall 6 times an hour.
As for the film.. 90% was shot on Panasonic DVX100's with the PS technik adapter and 35mm lenses. The latest pick up shots were shot with the same rig except an HVX200 HD instead. Color graded in Final Touch. The final films running time is just under 2 hours..
So without further ado.. enjoy the trailer for "Tumbe"
"Luck, is when opportunity, meets preperation." "There are 3 sides to every story. Yours, mine, and the truth, and none of us are lying" -Robert Evans Tizzy Entertainment
Thanks all.. Titanium.. mind if we use the quote for the DVD box? LOL ( "Blimey! Great job!" -Titanium Doughnut)
Yes most of that is DVX but again, with a a rotating ground glass allowing us to use 35mm lenses... and then lots of color work in post..
I'll keep you posted as things develop.. -Tizzy
"Luck, is when opportunity, meets preperation." "There are 3 sides to every story. Yours, mine, and the truth, and none of us are lying" -Robert Evans Tizzy Entertainment
How much is the PS technik and 35mm lens adapter to rent/buy? I'm assuming its extremely pricey... But those shots blew me away. Can't believe that was a DVX.. Great Job!
Posts: 77 | Location: Philadelphia, Pa | Registered: December 11, 2003
Originally posted by Q: How much is the PS technik and 35mm lens adapter to rent/buy? I'm assuming its extremely pricey... But those shots blew me away. Can't believe that was a DVX.. Great Job!
Renting them can get somewhat costly.. depends on what you are shooting, for how long ect..
The red rock isn't bad.. or so I have heard.. I have a bit of a problem with them. A while back I told my boss about them and we contacted them to possibly purchase one. We spoke on the phone several times but htey seemes hesitant when they found out we axctually owned the very first PS adapter ever manufactured and distributed.
They kept giving us excuses about why they couldn't send a beta unit to test and eventually went with "Sorry our beta unit was in Miami and got destroyed in a hurricane." Funny.. we were in Miami and there was hardly even any wind during said hurricane.
Later we found out they were actually being sued by PS Technik for copyright infringment. I am actually surprised they are still around but as a result it put a bad taste in my mouth over the company, especially when i had vouched for them.
Aside from the PS there is also the movietube adapter that is pretty nice. It uses a liquid crystal screen that shows the image and then the camera shoots and records that.
Finally all... The movie has a myspace page and in the not so distant future we will be releasing a myspace exclusive first 4 minutes clip of the movie. So add us
"Luck, is when opportunity, meets preperation." "There are 3 sides to every story. Yours, mine, and the truth, and none of us are lying" -Robert Evans Tizzy Entertainment
The P&S Technik Mini 35 Adapter rents for $350/day from Abel Cine Tech in NYC. You can probably get a deal being a student, but you have to supply your own certificate of insurance.
AFM is pretty well known within the industry. It is where most distributors pick up the majorityu of their titles for the following year.. especially for straight to video.
As for cost.. alot a booth (aka: a hotel room at the location site utilized as an office) can run up to $10,000 we got the trailer program that had our trailer playing three times an hour in the lobby the the shuttle trams and the buyers room which costs $4,000 when you add in airfare, hotel rooms, incedentals.. easilly over $20,000 but it looks like it was well worth it, can't make announcments yet.. but when things are finalized..
Final Touch is a DI program (digital intermediate) we use to color grade. it is made for mac (in fact Mac just bought it a couple months ago, waiting to hear their anouncement of what their plans are for it early this next year. Awesome program, in the right hands. -Tizzy
"Luck, is when opportunity, meets preperation." "There are 3 sides to every story. Yours, mine, and the truth, and none of us are lying" -Robert Evans Tizzy Entertainment
$16,000 just for airfare, hotel rooms, and incedentals seems a little much though. Is the bulk of that cost airfare or the hotel rooms? I guess you have to have a presence there for people to buy the rights from you.
Tizzy, I'm kinda curious how it works if you buy a trailer program and no booth. How do distributors contact you to negotiate buying the rights? Do you list contact info somewhere or something like that?
I wonder how many theatrical distribution deals they make... prolly not too many considering the high cost of that versus simple DTV. Sounds like it'd be an ideal place to sell a film.
Sorry lost, perhaps i was unclear.. we got a booth AND the trailer program.. So that was $14,000 right there.
Now the good thing is if you have some connections and play your cards right you can get other filmmakers to 'share the booth" with you. We took the films of a couple other people we work with to help offset the cost but the reality is simple.. it takes money to make money.
We presented ourselves professionally and it so far has paid off. Alot of B-movies and alot of Garbage goes to AFM so if you make sure you have eveerythign and I mean EVERYTHINg.. story, editing, audio image... everything.
We ADR for over 80% of the movie... nobody notices, I spent 6 months editing this movie and that was AFTER there had been a very rough cut of each scene done before I came on. I spent another 2 months on foley and sound design. This movie has been almost three years in the making, and that was because other things came up and my boss refused (and wisely I think) to rush things. Anyhting worth doing.. is worth doing right. -Tizzy
"Luck, is when opportunity, meets preperation." "There are 3 sides to every story. Yours, mine, and the truth, and none of us are lying" -Robert Evans Tizzy Entertainment
I agree Tizzy. Definitely can't rush a film. Everything has to be right. I'll be spending a year in post at least for my film... already about 5 months in. Seems like the big boys ADR a lot too. From what I've read, 80% of location sound is discarded.
Any tips for presenting yourselves professionally? Do you have a lawyer to go over possible distribution deals? I'm kinda curious how to prepare oneself for dealing with distributors since the name of the game is to make money off the other guy. I wish I could find some examples of typical distribution deals or forms. I was thinking about going to AFM just to listen to distributors talk... try to find out their tricks.
Posts: 34 | Location: Springfield, MO, USA | Registered: July 27, 2003