I know we already have topics on this, but is there a way to possibly rectify this? Over two days on the movie called Blind Date (http://studentfilms.com/film/get.do?id=955) a good 10-13 people just wrote reviews of all 5 stars, which contributed nothing other than "THIS IS AWESOME" or "FANTASTIC, FANTASTIC, FANTASTIC." I think were just done from the film maker himself to give his very poorly made film a higher rating.
Do you even take a look at the IPs? If 10 reviews come in in 24 hours from the same IP, there's a problem. What good does making a fake high rating do anyway? I just think it's stupid, and that the rating system should be configured differently to allow one rating per IP address.
Posts: 805 | Location: Jersey | Registered: September 07, 2004
i know that in a worst case scenario it was be masked, if its a cookie issue, cookies can be deleted. it's just annoying when i see a highly rated film, i watch it, it sucks, and then i check out the reviews to find a massive amount of potentially fake reviews.
this is an excellent site, i hate stupid things like this.
Posts: 805 | Location: Jersey | Registered: September 07, 2004
Yea, this gets on my nerves too. I like to see the best films get the best ratings, as they deserve to have them. With films that have over 50 reviews, it's often the case that 90% of those reviews came from family or friends. Unfortunately there not much you can do to completely prevent these things from happening.
Originally posted by Studentfilms.com: I hope to one day make it a requirement to log into the forums to write a review - thus combining the forums and the main site even more.
Is there anything particularly difficult that must be done in order to create this option?
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Posts: 1271 | Location: Indiana | Registered: May 23, 2004
Come on Paul, you know it's a Mike K. film. I think it's pretty well known throughout these forums to anyone who's been here for more than a year about your beef (and mine, for that matter) with him. Yes, his films do suck. And yes, for a film like that to get the reviews that it did, they would have to come from friends and family. However, anyone allowing the "good" reviews to sway them into thinking it's a better movie than they actually thought, well, those are people you're going to have to worry about for the rest of your life.
elliott...
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i don't have a beef with him per say. it's more that i just don't really like his attitude. i go into everything I review with an open mind. Every film I watch, I give an honest rating. I didn't give it all ones because I don't think it deserved all ones (I may have been in a good mood that day.) Upon looking at the films on the right side of the page, I saw a flick with a high number of stars. I don't usually check the reviews out before i see the film, as sometimes that gives me a bias, so i watched it and wondered what the hell these people were smoking. then i saw who the director was. then i saw everyone he knows giving a positive review.
MeGrimlock, I try not to hold grudges. If Michael K. actually put his time and effort into something, I'm sure he's capable of making something spectacular and worth my time. The fact that he makes a million five star votes for his films just proves that he's unsure about himself. (O.T., but I love how you said "It's a Mike K film", like he's the Uwe Boll or Ed Wood of StudentFilms.com.)
I just hope this gets rectified one of these days. I know Chris is a busy guy, and I know that coding this stuff is no picnic at all since I used to be a programmer. I love this site, most of the people on it are great. If this site wasn't here, god only knows what I'd do at work. I'm just irked by the faux ratings some times.
Originally posted by paul: MeGrimlock, I try not to hold grudges. If Michael K. actually put his time and effort into something, I'm sure he's capable of making something spectacular and worth my time. The fact that he makes a million five star votes for his films just proves that he's unsure about himself. (O.T., but I love how you said "It's a Mike K film", like he's the Uwe Boll or Ed Wood of StudentFilms.com.)
Ugh, the problem is that I doubt he'll actually put some time and effort into a project, or at least it will be a long time before he does. He obviously hasn't grown yet, he put an almost all five star review on his own movie, (four stars on cinematography.) His own review was the typical pigheaded studentfilmmaker response, if you don't get it then you just don't understand my art; not everything has to be pointed out, blah blah blah. He really is the Uwe Boll of this site, but that's sadly almost giving him too much credit.
I've have some news for you folks. I can have anyone I want review my films. And guess what else? They can say fantastic fantastic fantastic if their little heart so desires! Just because you don't like it doesn’t mean you have to be some kind of punk and act like you do in this thread and in the reviews. Just because you don’t care for something or even someone doesn’t mean you have to shove your opinions in the faces of others!
I am not going anywhere. My films (at least a select few of them) are here to stay. as far as using cookies and IP addresses to prevent multiple reviews, that is no good. People share computers, especially in college. When I show my films I just let people take turns to review right on my computer. As for making it necessary to log in to review. Well then you can say good bye to about 85% of the reviews on the entire site. No one wants to log in to review.
so, take your "Beef" and put it in the freezer because it is intoxicatingly immature and childish.
Posts: 809 | Location: _ | Registered: April 18, 2004
Of course, some might argue that it's a little bit immature, or maybe just not quite in the right spirit, to ask your friends and family to rate your movies. They're likely to be biased.
Also, the point of reviews is to provide a review, not an emotion.
A review which says 'fantastic fantastic fantastic' is just as irritating (to both the other viewers and the filmmaker) as one that says 'that sucked.' Student filmmakers generally want to know WHY it sucked, or didn't.
My 2¢
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Posts: 5197 | Location: Tisch at New York University | Registered: June 03, 2003
It may be irritating to some but it is their right. It is also incredibly childish to assume family/friend reviews are bias. Yes, it is possible because of family ties and whatnot but since you cant truely know please don't go assuming things.
And people who think they need to counter-act reviews to make their point known are just being bullies.
Posts: 809 | Location: _ | Registered: April 18, 2004
It may be irritating to some but it is their right.
I think we need to establish a precedent on this one. I suspect that the majority of members here would prefer detailed reviews.
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It is also incredibly childish to assume family/friend reviews are bias. Yes, it is possible because of family ties and whatnot but since you cant truely know please don't go assuming things.
Note my use of the word "likely." I'm being PC, but it's pretty obvious the family and friends who write 'fantastic fantastic fantastic' are biased.
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And people who think they need to counter-act reviews to make their point known are just being bullies.
On that, I would agree. It's not the job of reviewers to compensate for other reviews by adjusting their own ratings.
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Posts: 5197 | Location: Tisch at New York University | Registered: June 03, 2003
Yeah, I agree with your last point as well, hence the reason why I gave the benefit of the doubt and reviewed it with no bias and with no intention of making a big dent in the ratings.
However, If I made a review that said "This film is crap", and I put all 1's, it wouldn't get accepted. However, one that says "THIS IS AMAZING, I LOVE MICHAEL K, HE IS AMAZING" with ratings of all 5's is accepted. The fact that we've gotta write a paragraph or two explaining why your film is bad becomes annoying, especially when we've got a ton of faux positive reviews with little to no explaination at all. (Is there an actual person involved with weeding out the reviews?)
I'd totally support having an account + logging in to make reviews. I understand biases happen, but sometimes people need to step out of their shoes and look at something from the a different light. I don't like your film, I haven't liked any of your films, but I (unfortunately) watched it and rated it honestly. Your parents and friends must have low standards, or they must not watch very many movies.
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Posts: 805 | Location: Jersey | Registered: September 07, 2004
But the ones that usually get nixed are the ones that say "your film sucks and I did your mom" or "i hate your stupid film" or "sucked" with all 1s.
I only don't allow blatant rude and immature reviews. I'm not going to try to figure out someone's bias when trying to post a review that has all 5s. That's just nuts.
Your parents and friends must have low standards, or they must not watch very many movies.
-paul
I am not goin to tell you anything about my friends and family, but what on the face of the earth gives you the right to judge the standards (or anything else for that matter) or people you never met and probably never will???
That is very low class!
There are already films with only 1 review that have been up for weeks! Making an account manditory will result in many films going unreviewed at all!
Posts: 809 | Location: _ | Registered: April 18, 2004
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