Drew writes "...whether it helps me or not, I'm going to go to college to mahor in film and something else to fall back on of course, UM requires a 2nd major if your majoring in FIlm).
And can I get that list your talking about.?"

Uhhh.... no actually.
I thought you were serious about this film thing, If you don't know what school to go to and you need something to fall back on, you're pretty much doomed.
It's 100% or nothing in this business, Noone tolerates half assed wannabee people who don't have a full understanding of the process and can't perform under pressure.
I won't bother typing the list out for you, it won't do either of us any good.
Getting anywhere in this business takes the drive of a horny dog in a prosthetic leg factory. Rotting away in some overpriced college learning useless crap is the last thing you need to do.
Spielberg graduated from there?
What, one of a class of.... lets guess 200 or so?
How many of thier film school grads have gone on to do absolutly nothing and ended up working at fast food joints and WalMarts?
I'm guessing about 99.9%, which is the nationwide average.
Good luck to you in your endeavors.

shadowless... I'm not "Rich"... meaning I don't live in a mansion in a rich part of town... but my family can afford something like NYFA and if I got into an NYU then in my father's mind there is nothing better that the money can go towards anyway.

We have the money... and my whole life it was my fathers idea that paying for college was the top of the mountain... Its first priority...

Reelbigfish... I wish i could get the SAT scores you got.. How do you do it man? seriously? Thats quite the accomplishment.

DON't JUDGE ME... Just because i'm being safe and having something to fall back on DOES NOT mean that my pashion for filmmaking is any less than yours or not good enough to acheve success...

I happen to have lots of pashion for filmmaking... it is all I eVER think about... My pashion is strong and jut because i'm playing things safe... DOES NOT mean my pashion is enough...

I think its the people like you, that Probably DIDN't play it safe... and is finding no succes at all... and really wish they have because they realize that there PRIDE got the best of them and now they're doing nothing.

Don't judge other people....

SPeilberg majored in English.

Don't forget that.

I agree. Getting a college education is important - not only in what you will learn education wise but I'm where I am today because of my school. (BU) College is what you make of it.

The entertainment business will still be there when you graduate from college.

-Chris
Studentfilms.com

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Now that I know how films and film productions really work I'm glad I didn't attend film school 20 years ago, I'd probably be working at Burger King right now still trying to pay off my student loans.

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What job do you have now?

It's a fact that most if not all of the best filmmakers in the world went through some formal system of film education. If you don't beleive me check out IMDB...

...and I'm sorry life has passed you by, but don't give these young filmmakers misleading information becuase of the mistakes you made as a youngin.

Hmm, Ive been teetering between going to Duke, UNC, NCState, MSU, and UVA. But Im not sure which of those has the best minor film program. My parnets have said that they dont many me taking film as a major, but I plan on taking it as a minor and Im wondering which of these schools at least has a decent film program.

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Originally posted by Hoeks:
ok here how I got into NYU...well I am international student and therefore, I have a bonus....but probably it helps.

I had baaad high school grades (average C) from switzerland (well...it is impossible to have A's in our schools...yet, my grades were actually really bad even for our high school grade system). However, I went to Long Island University, scored a 4.0 in my first semester, did the SAT's (with the how to crack the SAT book help), scored 1240 (670 math and 570 verbal), wrote a nice essay, did a nice shortfilm (my first film in my life actually...as a director), send that to NYU and got in as a transfer student. as you see, it is worth to give it a try. Write an excellent essay, get 2 excellent reccomendation letters and your chances are ok.

some words to the SAT. My english was not great as I did the test. In fact, I guessed every single "level 5 hardcore" question in verbal. YEt, with the help of all those books, I scored a 570 and surprisingly, 90% of my level 5 answers were correct...I did not understand a single word in them...so get the book and practice, it helps a lot

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How come you had to take the SATs in college? I thought foreign students only had to take TOEFL. I'm asking cause my friend had to take that and he hated every minute of it.

...is not really needed. They do teach you to be like everyone else, well some schools do.

What film school is good for, is teaching you how to do sound, cut your own film and etc. These are worth it. Like some famous guy who's name slips my mind once said "Technical people can't be taught creativity. Yet creative people CAN be taught to be technical. This creates an omnipotant being." lol

Those words are true, though.

"We'll be able to get all the things we ever dreamed of... front, and rear spoilers for the cars!"

na sadly, international students have to take the SAT as well, unless their already finished 30 credits at university

So what if Speilberg, "sort of" went there. I went to their film festival and was EXTREMELY disapointed. They were much worse than I expected. But I can't say for sure if that's a reflection of the school or just the students themselves.

Film school is what YOU make of it.

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Originally posted by Drew Johnton:
I know people probably make posts like this ALL the time... but i am looking at film schools, and I am losing alot of sleep over this, and will probably continue to until i get accepted somewhere.

I have a 3.586 GPA (but that is a bit old and I got straight A's since then).... and I scored 1100 on the SATS which i only took once so far...

I am looking at the following colleges...

NYU (as a reach school)
Miami
Ithaca
Temple - Maybe

Miami is really my #1 choice

Well... what i am basically asking is for alittle insight.... What are my chaces for these schools?... I have already gotten answers to these questions but not from students like you guys... just from guys in suits...

Does anybody go to these colleges and can tell me what you got in with?... Or can anyone suggest to me another school that is good and i have a good chance of getting into?...

I know I am being very vague... but any information you can supply would help me out.

P.S... I will also be atending the New Yowk FIlm Academy this summer if that helps me at all with College.

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NYU is really overrated, you're just paying for a name. Do you really see a grand difference from NYUs films compared to other schools? It's just a hefty price tag.

I got declined appyling there with a 3.99 something GPA and a 1250 on my SATs coming out of high school. One year later I reapplied with a 3.7 GPA out of college - University of the Arts, and got accepted as a transfer, but couldn't afford it. They throw thousands of dollars of "phantom" costs once you're accepted. You pay hundreds of dollars for "registration" and "entry" fees for various "departments" on top of them literally forcing you to buy $1500 dollars on CAFETERIA MEAL PLAN CREDIT.

I'd recommend a smaller school that focuses on learning every possible bit of technology from Adobe Premier, After effects, Pro tools, FCp and analog tech. that will give you every possible angle to accomplish whatever you need with artistic and technological craft rather than shoving this Hollywood "production" mentality into your heads.

Focus on a school that gives you the most freedom and has the best technology available and will teach it to you - that way your film career is totally in YOUR HANDS. A lot of these BIG NAME schools totally take over your projects, telling you not to do something that's not marketable, or if they don't believe in it themselves, plus a lot of these big schools, like NYU OWN THE FILMS YOU MAKE.

NYU is really overrated, you're just paying for a name. Do you really see a grand difference from NYUs films compared to other schools?


Now that is very funny

first, NYU let you do WHATEVER you want with your films. There is no restriction. One girl in my class almost made a porn, eventually she will do one as a documentary..hardcore...

second: NYU has great teachers and great hands one work in the production classes...more, every weekend you can work on several upper class films as a crew member, which is a great experience.

Yea, I sound like a fanboy...but I have the best time in my life at this school. Yes, it IS expensive...but you got hundreds of motivated and talented students, great teachers, great facilities and a school that lets you do what you want. If comemrcial or non commercial, it does not matter. they probably tell you it may be bad to do this and that, but they let you do it nonetheless.

and no, again, NYU does NOT own your films

it is funny that so many people say so bad things about big schools like NYU and USC...but they never went to one. Yes, there are idiots here...but everywhere else as well

I cannot say more than that I get a awesome education and that I have great fun here at Tisch. Just as an example sophomore year: You direct in your first smester 5 16mm films and you help on 16 others. Second semester, you direct 5 TV multiple camera films on a sprofessional build set and you help on 36 projects(!!!)

if that is not hands on and great, what else?

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Originally posted by Hoeks:
NYU is really overrated, you're just paying for a name. Do you really see a grand difference from NYUs films compared to other schools?


Now that is very funny

first, NYU let you do WHATEVER you want with your films. There is no restriction. One girl in my class almost made a porn, eventually she will do one as a documentary..hardcore...

second: NYU has great teachers and great hands one work in the production classes...more, every weekend you can work on several upper class films as a crew member, which is a great experience.

Yea, I sound like a fanboy...but I have the best time in my life at this school. Yes, it IS expensive...but you got hundreds of motivated and talented students, great teachers, great facilities and a school that lets you do what you want. If comemrcial or non commercial, it does not matter. they probably tell you it may be bad to do this and that, but they let you do it nonetheless.

and no, again, NYU does NOT own your films

it is funny that so many people say so bad things about big schools like NYU and USC...but they never went to one. Yes, there are idiots here...but everywhere else as well

I cannot say more than that I get a awesome education and that I have great fun here at Tisch. Just as an example sophomore year: You direct in your first smester 5 16mm films and you help on 16 others. Second semester, you direct 5 TV multiple camera films on a sprofessional build set and you help on 36 projects(!!!)

if that is not hands on and great, what else?

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On my application, they made me sign a contract, stating all films are property of NYU, even the ones you do NOT MAKE FOR CLASS. If you make a film all on your own, not using NYU equipment, they make you legally sign a waiver that it's NYU property regardless, just because it was made while you attended their school.

And any school that has you work on 36mm has their head up their ***.

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Originally posted by Ren_R:
And any school that has you work on 36mm has their head up their ***.

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Yeah, particularly when 35mm is far more common. The must feel that extra mm goes a long way. Just playin' with ya Ren.

Nota "Too sardonic to can" Mono

[This message was edited by NotaMono on November 10, 2003 at 01:46 PM.]

eht now I am confused myself

cause one of NYUs marketing things at film is that they do NOT own your films

however, who cares, NYU is totally eager to put them into the big festivals anyway and if you make money with them, its all yours


and I am myself surprised how many people shoot 35mm here...however, NYu does not give ya the quipment and money, studens find ways to raise it


ehe now I begin to be a real fanboy

but just the fact that I feel totally happy and grateful to be here should be a sign that this school rocks

believe me, I dont just say that

the films are yours. But you do have to credit the school and say that the movie was made while attending NYU.

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oh here we go thx alain