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So I turned my apartment into three different sets to shoot this music video, and so maybe later i'll upload the "normal" pictures of the room so you can see what it looks like, but here's the green room in mosiac.



so this will be one of the backgrounds, and the video will look sort of the same as this, but moving on top of this background.


edit: i need to fix the color balance and contrast in that green room too before i use it. i think the chemical or the film was old, because they all came out kind of hazy, instead of vibrant.

edit2: I bought the generic Fujifilm you can buy anywhere, 200ASA, and shot it something like f5.6 at 1/10 or something like that. I took about 192 pictures while trying to get all the other video and film cameras footage too, so it got more and more scattered. I needed cheap film that can get developed cheaply and that could be put on a disc so i wouldn't have to scan so many pictures. it came out pretty good.

I wouldn't consider them high quality enough to put up as pieces, but as a 72dpi background in a 720x480 video, you won't really notice it. i need to fix the top left corner.

red room



blue room:




i just noticed that .jpg compression really messes up some of the color and makes it look not as good, so you'll have to trust me it looks better in real life, as a .tiff or .pdd.

blue room revised:




red room revised:





Here's an uncompressed print screen, the colors look better:




i want to put white borders around some of the pictures that make up the mosiac, but i'm not.
 
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So I shot it on the following media:

Canon GL1, miniDV
DVX-100A, miniDV, 24p mode
35mm Fujifilm, still photography
16mm 7218 Vision2 500T, various speeds/exposures
8mm Cinecolor 125D, various speeds/exposures

It's a lot of footage. Something like 4 hours worth of footage for a 3 minute video. But there's about 6-8 moving windows going on at the same time, so you need lots of footage to fill it all in.

I need to color correct all of it, and still need to shoot the "white" room next semester.
 
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I'll post the idea behind the video later, but the short version is:

I wanted to make a David Hockney composition with moving images.
 
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Wow. this looks VERY interesting. Those pictures are great!

I wouldn't change anything about the green either. You said it looked bad, and not vibrant, but I think the color scheme going on is very cool. But then again, it IS your project.

Either way, it's still cool. Definitely keep us updated.


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that rocks!! really cool. and the color comes out right on my calibrated apple lcd. some browsers mess with colors, but it looks superb here. please keep us up to date! looks like an amazing project!


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Wow that's awesome.

My brother showed me this one commercial (I think that's what it was), i can't remember the site, but it used a ton of polariod pictures, and then animated with those, and then added in film footage. It was really cool though, cause the transitions between the polariods and the film footage were seemless. I wish I could remember where that was, oh well.
 
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Those are some striking images! I love the cubism-type theme you got going.
 
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Originally posted by Heliotrope:
Wow that's awesome.

My brother showed me this one commercial (I think that's what it was), i can't remember the site, but it used a ton of polariod pictures, and then animated with those, and then added in film footage. It was really cool though, cause the transitions between the polariods and the film footage were seemless. I wish I could remember where that was, oh well.



Those are HP Photo commercials. They look AMAZING. I've had the idea for this video since summer, i just needed to get money and people to help, so it's taken me a while. And it's not completley finished, i probably wont' finish it until like february. i just wanted to post what i have so far since i talk so much here and never show anything.

Anyway, yea, those HP commercials made me mad and happy at the same time: happy because they're SO WELL DONE AND SUCH A GOOD IDEA, and mad because i didn't think of it first.


here's a link to those HP commercials:

http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/hpads/you/photography/
 
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haha, money and people. Those two things make up the Bane of all student filmmakers...

still, Those images are sweet. Good Job.

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This looks great. Do these background plates move? I'd love to see the finished product!

Nota "nOtA MonO" Mono
 
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What, nota? No witty signature! I'm appalled!

What really strikes me about those photos is you can't tell its the same room. Very nicely pulled off. If you hadn't mentioned they were the same room I never would have guessed.


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So just so you guys don't think i'm lazy, although i am, here's the work i've been doing on the video.

Here's a screencapture of the video I'm editing on Final Cut, you can see what it looks like when you have the video and the background together:

And I'll explain my work process.

So things started out pretty easy. Just lay down the background plate, and then start layind down the video clips from the different cameras that were all the same series of shots. Then for the next sequence, grab all the clips from the different cameras that were the next series of shots, and staggering them with the first series so there's this sense of the second series of shots "taking over" the first series.



Big Version:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/336550/FCPScreencaptureBIG.jpg

Then things started getting complicated.

Here you can see how I work vertically to lay things out. This way I can see what video clips are on top of what, and can drag videoclips out of the way or higher up or lower down than the other clips, hence having that effect of throwing one picture on top of another. I leave the video window big behind the timeline so i can see what is actually going on, and have to click back and forth between the video canvas and the timeline. (yea yea, dual monitors, but i can't afford it just now)

Red room:




BIG VERSION

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/336550/FCPRedroomscreencapBIG.jpg

Then, as you can see in this next shot, the video windows are smaller, and the timeline bigger and more horizontal, this is how i figure out the timing of the shots. I like to do it visually (seeing how long the length is), although they all go to the beat of the music. This way I can see the gaps between the clips, and see visually what the timing is like. In the corner you can see her tearing the green paper to reveal the red room underneath. And to the right you can see me compositing the video windows on either side of the photographs, which in turn are all laying on top of a background plate, because sometimes I have to move the windows around because they appear too close, or the motions in one video window clash with the one next to it so it has to be moved.

Also, in the scopes you can see how the image is more yellow than green (after modest color correcting), but actually having it be so yellow gives it a glow and makes the green stand out more. (The shot of her tearing down the wallpaper is not color corrected, you can see how blue the shot actually is. We had to shoot with a 1/8 blue filter on the lights to match the light coming in from the window, so later ALL the blue can be timed out equally during the transfer and color correction to get rid of the blue cast and add equal amounts of yellow/orange to make the scene warm, and as you can see, it worked out just like that. if we hadn't put a blue filter on the light, the light would have been too orange, while the light coming in through the window would have been too blue, and so the problem would arise that whenever we took out the blue, the orange parts would turn even MORE orange, and whenever we tried to make the orange parts less orange, the blue parts would turn even more blue)



BIG VERSION

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/336550/Screencap2BIG.jpg



It looks like there aren't enough video windows, but that's becaue they're always disappearing and reappearing somewhere else in the shot, also I'm trying to keep everything within the title safe area. Also, once you see everything moving, it actually is overwhelming, so I had to scale down the number of simultaneous video windows.
 
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any chance of seeing a video clip of this?
 
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i don't know of a place that'll let me host video files without paying, and i don't have money to be paying for a site + bandwidth just now.

any suggestions?
 
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wow this stuff looks great, I cant wait to see it
 
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Send them to me, I'd be more than happy to host them for you. My email is travis@sidewinderx7.com or you can get ahold of me through AIM, and my name on that is TravisArket

I really like your idea and I'd love to see how its looking in actualy moving format Razz
 
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yeah, if Travis doesn't work, I'll temporarily host it for ya. I'd like to see a video of it too.


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hey guys. i've been getting ready for schools starting (which it did today)

i compressed the first half i have of it at 15fps, at 320x240, and it ends up being like 17Mb, but i forgot to clip the part of the song that's still on black. anyway, that's too big still so let me try the different compressors. i was using Sorensen3.

also, at 15fps, a lot of the edits get cut off prematurely so lemme see what it looks like at 24fps.
 
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hey man, you can send it to me on AIM or YAHOO or MSN messenger. I have plenty of bandwidth to use, so 17mb isnt a problem at all. Dont sacrifice quality for file size Smile I'll host it no matter what size it is. Well as long as its under like 1gig .. lol

my aim, is sidewinderx7, my yahoo is sidewinderx7com, and my msn is travis@sidewinderx7.com

Smile I'm just excited to see how you put everything together. I've always liked the idea that youre doing .. so sorry if i seem kinda pushy. haha

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