Paging Jesse Maddox of Empire Excape. I know he used to have a cool site for getting training guns, with 8mm blanks. He should poke in, Ill see if I cant give him a heads up to come by and give you the link. They wont give you a flash though. Just a bang, some smoke, and the realistic recoil. As far as I know, you cant buy real fire arm props, the likes of which you see in film. You have to have a special permit. If Im wrong, please, someone let me know, and be sure to let me know where Ic an get em
Be careful with fake guns though...I had some friends who almost got shot/arrested by cops while filming in Boston.
If you're in the middle of nowhere it shouldn't be a problem but if you are shooting anywhere that is urban be careful. (or make it painfully obvious that you are shooting a movie...i.e. lights).
-Chris Studentfilms.com
Posts: 2274 | Location: Los Angeles, CA U.S.A | Registered: October 30, 2002
Actually, this is a VERY good point. The fellas at Infiniti pictures almost got shot/ arrested while shooting an action sequence in an alley. They were shooting a film about a hitman, and were performing a "kill". A passer by thought it was real, despite the lights, stedi cam, dolly track, camera, crew, ect. It all worked out, and got em on the news, but they learned a lesson.
Same with a college student here in Florida. He was shooting a movie about armed men robbing a movie theater. They had permission from the theater to be there, but hadnt let the cops know. Someone saw 8 guys with guns enter the place, and called the cops. Like 25 cops, and a swat team showed up. They stormed the place, and took em down. After a while, they got it all figured out, but the cops said they had snipers on the adjacent roof. Between shots, one guy walked over to the door, to call his girlfriend, because he got better reception on his cell phone. He had a fake shotgun resting on his shoulder. Two snipers had him in their cross hairs, and their orders were to take him if he droped the gun to his side. Very scary stuff. If your going to shoot a scene like that, call the police. Speak to their Media relations office. Also, try your local film commision. Some are only about money, and how many hotel rooms youll need for your crew, but alot will be cool and try and help you out, plus, its good to have a dialoug with them. R. M. McWhorter
Just to let you know you CAN rent blank-firing guns from such places as Independant Studio Services (WWW.ISSprops.com if memory serves correctly.) HOWEVER, it is rather expensive, AND you have to have them shipped to a licenced gun dealer due to ATF restrictions. We rented some for a local shoot, and it was somewhat of an expensive pain. Also, you DO need to contact the local police and make sure it's okay to use them, and that no special permits are needed (especially if filming in a public place, i.e. city street, alley, etc.) And even after notifying them, find out when shift change is and NOTIFY THEM AGAIN after it! We got converged upon during our shoot because First Shift failed to notify Second Shift of what we were doing. Luckily, I knew some of them because I was a deputy sheriff at the time. Above all ... safety first. Even blanks can be harmful, as they are still an explosion. Feel free to e-mail if anyone has any questions about law enforcement. Good luck.
Posts: 1 | Location: Fayetteville, AR USA | Registered: December 02, 2002
Hmm, Depends on what you need. Ive found that buying some cheap Airsoft Guns off of Ebay (The Gas Recoil ones) look quite realistic. I add the gun noises in editing. But lack of smoke hurts. But hopefully you know someone tech-savvy who can jiggy-rig a Co2 canister up to something and instant smoke when done right.
Posts: 461 | Location: Not Applicable | Registered: December 09, 2002
You can always add in muzzle flashes in post, via Photo shop. There is a link to an instructional as to how you go about accomplishing this at www.rewindvideo.com Post in the forum, someone will direct you to it. Its also a cool film making resource site. R. M. Mchorter
I have bought a couple over the years, but have bookmarked several sites that sell them on the web.
Some guns are non-firing. Some guns fire blanks, but have the barrels blocked for safety, while other guns are hard rubber look-a-likes. Prices range from around $20 and up.
Since I noticed your profile lists your location as being in British Columbia, I would like to warn you that if you decide to purchase Airsoft guns off the net (ie. eBay), make sure that you buy WITHIN Canada. If you take the chance of buying from the US or elsewhere, there is the high probability that Canada Customs will seize them at the border.
Also, airsoft guns are a good choice for filming because of their realistic appearance and operation. Gas blowback guns offer realistic action of the slide moving back and forth at the pull of the trigger. But because of the realism of these replicas, like everyone else, I caution you with their use.
Good luck on your project!
Posts: 2 | Location: East Coast, Canada | Registered: February 05, 2003
Yeah, buy some gas guns, BB guns, or even toy guns from say a dollar store.
Then add in the sound FX, and draw in the muzzle flash after, in Photoshop. Here is a great article on how to do a Photoshop CG muzzle flash, for anyone interested. http://www.rewindvideo.com/RVM/Articles/Ashby/Gunfire101.html Good luck, and be safe. R. Michael McWhorter