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Anyone out there know anything about improvisation? The reason I ask is because I'm thinking of trying my hand at writing a script that can be improvised by the actors. The problem is that I don't quite know how it's done compared to, say, "classic" script where actors don't or can't improvise. Maybe there's no difference, I can imagine that but please let me know if any of you have any experience in this of writing.

Thankyou, your thoughts and comments are always appreciated.
 
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unless i was dealing with christopher walken, robert deniro, steve bucemi, or someone of that nature, i wouldn't write a completely improv script. write dialogue, and if the actors feel like changing it, they will. improv isn't as easy as it looks.
 
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at this stage of your filming/writing, you should write a story with a concrete plot (in other words, don't let improvised dialogue tell a story), the actors can improvise if you/they want to, as long as it is in the confines of telling/advancing the story. I would always have something written out to say.

And paul, i completely agree with you about christopher walken's acting abililty, lol.
 
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when people would write stuff for Saturday night Live they would just put stuff like:

Bill Murray says something funny.

Steve Martin does something to make people laugh.

Unfortunately, I don't think you have actors that talented. Just write a script with a basic, but concrete plot the characters need to follow, and just see if they can play it out.


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walken is by far one of the best improv people i've ever seen. his **** on SNL is golden.
 
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for improv. work you need realy good actors, that assume the personallities of who theyre playing, rather than actors that just play the part


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Look into the films of John Cassavetes. He did alot of improvisation, bu not in the way you mean. What he did was come up with the plot and story and have the characters rehearse alot and then they would slowly start coming up with stuff to add etc... and you can really see how good Cassavetes' films come out as a result, cause even with some unprofessional actors, they still put something real into their characters. Also, I know De Niro and alot of those guys don't simply just come up with the stuff in the spur of the moment, improvisation (as I see it) isn't the type of thing you see on "Who's Line is it Anyways?" It's just rehearsing their roles and looking at the film through their characters and that's where alot of stuff comes from (like the "You talkin' to me?" from Taxi Driver). That's what improvisation in film means alot of the time. But yes, alot is spur of the moment too.
 
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Originally posted by Hill Dawson Kane:
Look into the films of John Cassavetes. He did alot of improvisation, bu not in the way you mean. What he did was come up with the plot and story and have the characters rehearse alot and then they would slowly start coming up with stuff to add etc... and you can really see how good Cassavetes' films come out as a result, cause even with some unprofessional actors, they still put something real into their characters. Also, I know De Niro and alot of those guys don't simply just come up with the stuff in the spur of the moment, improvisation (as I see it) isn't the type of thing you see on "Who's Line is it Anyways?" It's just rehearsing their roles and looking at the film through their characters and that's where alot of stuff comes from (like the "You talkin' to me?" from Taxi Driver). That's what improvisation in film means alot of the time. But yes, alot is spur of the moment too.


Hmm, interesting. And what about improvisation in the style of Robert Altman? That's what I originally had in mind. Anyone know about that kind of improvisation?

Thanks for the replies so far.
 
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