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Originally posted by Roy Hatts:
and it's always people being amazed at how they "felt" things.

Wow. Way to undermine and devalue the very purpose of film, Roy. I'm able to appreciate the simplest of films, Casablanca (mentioned by brain) being in my top 3 films of all-time. The difference between us is that I think I'm able to do it in a non-pretentious way and remain open-minded to main-stream film and brilliant performances such as that of Heath's Joker.

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No, good taste in movies is a general liking of good films.

Wow, don't be stupid. The fact that everyone has their own opinions means that this definition of "good taste" is irrelevant and arrogant on your part. There are films that are generally considered to be well-made by certain demographics(film buffs, nerds, guys who like naked chicks and car crashes, etc.) but no one can define "good taste" like you just tried to do. That was pathetic. It all comes down to personal preference.

Its hard to believe that something such as "good taste" actually exists, especially since so many different people come to film for so many different reasons.

For example, I would consider Inland Empire a masterpiece and easily the best film of this decade. However to someone who is not looking for David Lynch to take an incoherent, frightening 4 1/2 hour journey through their subconscious, Inland Empire is quite likely to appear on their 10 Least Favorite Films of All Time list. And that doesn't offend me in the least.

The Canadian Broadcasting Corp. defines good taste as respecting and reflecting the generally accepted values of contemporary society. I presume those with good taste know what this means.

yeah just like someone said earlier about pop films and MTV, taste these days is all about violence and dirty jokes. while those things may be an OK and FREE choice in society, should they constantly be temptations on the movie screen?

did Brokeback Mtn rape anyone else? maybe thats why i dont trust the Joker.

Characters like the Joker have enough trusting minions already. Why is it that such crazy bastards always have lots of henchmen slavering to do their evil bidding?

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Originally posted by karen:
The Canadian Broadcasting Corp. defines good taste as respecting and reflecting the generally accepted values of contemporary society.

Honestly what do Canadians know about contemporary society? Don't they still ride Mooses to work?

Was that in bad taste? Eh.

It's MOOSE my American friend.

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Originally posted by Kyle Johnson:
did Brokeback Mtn rape anyone else? maybe thats why i dont trust the Joker.

HAHAHAHA

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Originally posted by karen:
Why is it that such crazy bastards always have lots of henchmen slavering to do their evil bidding?

Actually, I loved the explanation for why the Joker had minions - they were mentally deranged, paranoid schizophrenics, etc.. In most movies I'm always left thinking "why the heck would all those people go along with the main bad guy?" But this one made startling sense.

The Joker's minions may be cool, but they can't be anywhere close to that one Nazi henchman in Raiders of The Lost Ark who crawls all over Indy's truck and kicks Indy in the face and then tries to crush him

Minions are gluttons for punishment. The General's army in the new Mummy couldn't wait to be tortured by their evil leader for the cause.

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Wow. Way to undermine and devalue the very purpose of film, Roy. I'm able to appreciate the simplest of films, Casablanca (mentioned by brain) being in my top 3 films of all-time. The difference between us is that I think I'm able to do it in a non-pretentious way and remain open-minded to main-stream film and brilliant performances such as that of Heath's Joker.

You realized I liked The Dark Knight right? I'm very open minded, which is why I like stuff like the Dark Knight, Casablanca, and Eraserhead, and whatever else was mentioned. You misunderstand- I'm sick of people expressing an almost surprised exhuberance that they felt emotions in a film- and they talk about how real the characters are- and it's always in a huge ****ing insane summer blockbuster. Why can't we get enraptured and excited over much more subtle films? It's always Star Wars or...you know, forget it, I'm repeating myself here.

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Wow, don't be stupid. The fact that everyone has their own opinions means that this definition of "good taste" is irrelevant and arrogant on your part.

You're acting like I invented the phrase "good taste" or something. Maybe I did a ****ty job at defining it and maybe it's not an important concept. But there are objectively bad films. And there are people who love terrible films and hate great films because it's too much effort to like them. It's partly ignorance and partly being drawn to the lowest common denominator. If you want to say "let's agree to disagree!" with everything, why even argue with me about this? I have my OPINION about good movies and bad movies and people who go overboard with the Dark Knight, so according to you, like let's, totally agree to disagree yaaaayy

This thread is cracking me up.

Who would've thought a comic book movie sequel would garner this much attention?

I believe in judging films for what they're attempting to be. For a comic book movie, The Dark Knight is incredible I think. For a comic book movie... If the film did not feature iconic comic book heroes and villains but instead tried to sell itself simply as a straight up crime drama - it's hard to tell - but I feel like it would've been perceived as pretty mediocre.

But it wasn't. It's a comic book movie and it's miles and miles ahead of most others of it's genre. I don't think it's too unreasonable that there's so much hype for it. Not that I'm saying the hype is justified, but I'm surprised at how many posters seem to be so surprised and almost angry about it.

It's a comic book movie...

Tim Burton does comic book movies. People have complained that this movie wasn't stylized enough. Sure, it took a comic-book idea, but Nolan spun it into a seriously serious movie.

I hear he wrote and directed the next Garfield film.

It would be great to have a dark, gritty Garfield film, packed with Oscar-worthy performances.

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Originally posted by karen:
Tim Burton does comic book movies. People have complained that this movie wasn't stylized enough. Sure, it took a comic-book idea, but Nolan spun it into a seriously serious movie.

Well... I would agree that it's a seriously serious movie... as far as comic book movies go.

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Originally posted by politicsofecstacy:
Well... I would agree that it's a seriously serious movie... as far as comic book movies go.

I think this is the first comic book film that surpasses it's pulp roots.

Unbreakable has got to be my favorite by far.