What the **** is the junk food of cinema? What is a popcorn movie? Do these terms mean that you turn your brain off before going into the theater or something? Do you guys simply accept Indiana 4 being a boring mess, allowing its stupidity and mundane bull**** to bukkake your face as you enter the theater?
I have no enthusiasm about the Indiana Jones movies. I thought the first three were decent, the first one being the best. Yes, they were fun. But there were reasons why they were good and fun, and reasons why the first one worked so incredibly well. The fourth one was incredibly boring and stupid, half because Spielberg seemed to be completely bored, and half because Lucas is one of the stupidest, ****tiest filmmakers working today.
Seriously, the shot with the alien scowling at Cate Blanchett before her head explodes, followed by Indy saying "Knowlege...knowledge was their real treasure!" was insulting.
The best thing: The Curious Case of Benjamin Button trailer before the movie.
Also: why the hell is everyone using so many quotation marks?
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Posts: 79 | Location: Hatt City | Registered: July 07, 2007
No, but that's the thing. It's boring, somehow. Watch the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, because the same thing happens to the Nazis as what happens to her. Even worse, as soon as they introduced her character, I predicted EXACTLY what was going to happen to her and another character.
This is going to be The Matrix Revolutions in a few years. Everyone who saw it because they "had to" (I'm apparently in this group) are going to regret it, meanwhile people who haven't seen it will only receive pleas from us not to see it. I'm tired. Go rent Citizen Kane or Chaplin's "The Kid" instead of seeing this bull****.
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Posts: 79 | Location: Hatt City | Registered: July 07, 2007
Let's be honest here... did you really expect Indy 4 to be as good as the first? It's been nearly 20 years since the last one come out, how could Spielberg possibly get back into the same mindset?
And pffttt... whatever, Matrix Revolutions was awesome.
Posts: 28 | Location: Jersey | Registered: March 23, 2008
I definitely wasn't expecting it to be as good as Raiders, but I was at least expecting something that felt more like an Indiana Jones movie all the way through (or at least 90% of the time). This one was just hit or miss, and suffered from some technical/character issues (see my rant in the other thread).
But, I've warmed up to certain aspects of it over the last few days (except for the effin' monkeys and the ending and a few other moments), so maybe the DVD release will be kinder for me (much like it was with Revolutions). But, it will never be what it could have been, unfortunately.
Granted, 20 years is a LOT of time to build up a lot of hype, some of which would be nearly impossible to overcome. But, if a movie had a chance to do that, I thought it would have been Indiana Jones 4.
On the subject of the topic of this thread, though, I haven't discouraged anyone from seeing it, but I also haven't heaped praise upon it. I've even encouraged people to see it while it's still in the theater (but maybe as a matinée).
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Posts: 131 | Location: Murray, KY | Registered: July 25, 2004
the problem is, I was a fan, and I feel it utterly failed, so was it really for me?
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Posts: 1950 | Location: Milkyway, the earth, USA, Arizona, Chandler | Registered: June 25, 2003
Originally posted by Forsakenproductions: the problem is, I was a fan, and I feel it utterly failed, so was it really for me?
What, you've never gotten a gift that you wanted to return? haha
Touche! The problem is, I can't return this movie to Spielberg
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Posts: 1950 | Location: Milkyway, the earth, USA, Arizona, Chandler | Registered: June 25, 2003
You know, ironically, my favourite Indie was 'The Temple of Doom', which is considered the worst before the current one. I haven't seen the latest but am not exactly jumping for the occasion.
I am very surprised however, about the passion and zeal some posters have shown in describing their opposition to the new one. Being fans of the original(s), what did they want to see more of? What has Spielberg changed drastically that you disagree with?
Posts: 36 | Location: Beijing, China... Soon LA | Registered: May 17, 2008
Love F Scott Fitzgerald. Love David Fincher. Brad's groovy. And Cate too!
I CAN'T SEE 150 MILLION DOLLARS!!!!!!!!!! That's a 1 and a 5 followed by 7 (count em 7) zeroes $150,000,000.00 THAT'S USD ART SCHMART! THIS ONE NEVER TURNS A PROFIT!
The story is a short one, isn't it? Like 5 pages.....SHORT. It doesn't take place on Mars, does it? Not going to 85 different exotic locations are we? No splitting up units on 3 continents are we?
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Posts: 39 | Location: FLORIDA | Registered: March 10, 2008
They said it was 'loosely based' on the story which means a lot of the story will be dragged on and changed. I have an early draft on the script which is 150+ pages. It doesn't begin in the late 1880/1890s like the short. More like 1910/1920s.
I can totally see why their budget is so much, but yes, 150 is a little too much. Coppola did Youth With Youth with 20, I'm sure they could pull this off for a little less than 150. But remember who you have on board; PITT AND BLANCHET. Don't forget the stars. $$$
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Posts: 251 | Location: bill nye's town | Registered: November 25, 2005
I haven't seen it yet, but i doubt it can be as bad as "In the Name of the King."
Dear Lord that movie sucked...
But anyway, the manner of which you hate Indy 4 kinda reminds me of an obscure 90s British sitcom with Simon Pegg called "Spaced." The main character has some issues to work out with Lucas after Ep. I and so he burns all of the original merch in jedi funeral form. Then someone points out that the Ewoks were trash, and he replies "But Jar Jar makes the Ewoks look like... f***in' Shaft!"
Moral of the story, you can only take movie franchises so far. I'm sure it wasn't that bad. In fact, I'll go see it today.
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Posts: 33 | Location: Lake Jackson, TX | Registered: June 13, 2007
I am not as impassioned as you all. I went to see the movie to appease a friend. I didn't like the other three, and so I expected the fourth to be the same cheesy, stereotypical mumbo-gumbo.
It was even worse than I expected. And it made even less sense than the others. Something about aliens, crop circles, anti-communism, and government-sanctioned hetero-normative family units. It was all over the place. If I were Mel Gibson, I would've popped one right there in the theater.
I thought it was pretty obtuse and... well, incredibly stoopid... with a double "o."
I did, however, enjoy all the loud noises.
Posts: 72 | Location: Orange County, CA | Registered: March 15, 2008