black hawk down sucked bad. sure, the explosions and war were pretty to look at, but it drags on and on and on and on. how long is the movie? like 3 hours? 3 hours of war. nothing else. I hardly knew the characters, I wasn't able to keep body count on the main characters, I didnt even know their names. thus, I didn't care about them.

it was just one big explosion, nothing else.

Whats wrong with you people. How can you like an Oliver Stone movie. To him the world revolves around him and he makes his own history up.

P.S. Thin Red Line Didn't even have a plot, how can you even like that movie.

What did you all think about Windtalkers (with Nicholas Cage)?

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What did you all think about Windtalkers (with Nicholas Cage)?

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HAHA. I'll save my finger movements and let someone else answer this.

M.Night Fan - welcome to the site, but please, do your homework. Whether it was an exaggeration or not, Thin Red Line did have a plot, and it had an excellent script as well, I was lucky enough to have connections to read it before the film was released and when it was, I was blown away. It was a little long, but the fantastic cinematography, acting, and storyline (and use of metaphorical elements) kept me interested.

Another great war film is The Lost Battalion. (The TV remake in 2001 wasn't bad either).

M. Night Shamalan (or whatever) sucks.

Another good war movie is All Quiet on the Western Front.

Oh yeah i forgot about AQWF, that's a very good movie. I'm not sure if anyone mentioned Full Metal Jacket yet, but it was pretty good too.

i actually haven't seen the original All Quiet since Freshman year, but it was good. Anyone seen the remake? I saw that one too, but I dont remember how it was, I guess I'll have to watch both them again.

and yeah, Full Metal Jacket is great, I just watched it the other day. The movie is so creepy at parts.

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P.S. Thin Red Line Didn't even have a plot, how can you even like that movie.

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How can you say it doesn't have a plot? Look at the great characters in it, Witt, Staros and Tall. They were the three who were the most focused on and they all showed a great side of war, from the Colonel to the Captain to the Private. And you can't not love the way Malick shot this film, turning what would have been a WW2 US glory and heroic event into what feels more like a Vietnam film. I mean, they dropped the bomb and ended the war, what did Guadalcanal mean in retrospect. it's hard to find a WW2 film like that, especially the way america looks at the war. And again, while many don't like Oliver Stone or his films, am not going to take any CO's oppinion on the war over Stone, who was there.

Wind-talkers was the only movie I ever walked out on.

Back to Platoon, The reason I think it is the best war movie is because it has so much going on and Stone was a vet.

Apocalypse now is great but is it really a war movie? I think its not, rather its backdrop is the vietnam war.

I am backing Ryan and Trespasser on this. Windtalkers stunk as a war movie. I think it should have been Vin Diesel or some other dumb action star, because at its best, its a shallow action movie with the back drop of Sapain in the 1940's.
M. Night- I think Platoon wasnt intended to inform you of any actual events of the vietnam war, rather a tribute/ memoir to the everyday crappy life- or death- of a grunt in Vietnam republic of.
As for red line, never saw it.
And Kyle, Hawk Down wasnt supposed to be a short and sweet go kill the militia men and leave deal. It was am accurate account of what those men went through.

Ok Kyle I would love to hear why u think M.Night sucks. He is one of the most original filmakers of our time. Plus he writes his own material, produces, and directs. There aren't too many people that still do all three.

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He is one of the most original filmakers of our time.

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Hitchcock who?

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Ok Kyle I would love to hear why u think M.Night sucks.

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oh, you'd LOVE to hear why I think M. Night sucks?

too bad. I'm keeping it to myself.

Black Hawk Down is I think the most accurate representation of modern warfare. It really was extraordinary.

As far as WWII, that's a hard call, considering there has been so many. Saving Private Ryan as good, but I don't know if it was accurate.

I really only know about the assault on Japan, because my Grandpa was on those ships when the Kamikazes started hitting. So, that's where my interest has always been. How come all the WWII movies concentrate on the German part? Why not on the Japs? It was just as improtant as the Nazi spread. both countries wanted the same thing for their people. When I make it into the industry, I'll make a movie about that I think.

An amazing WWII movie is "The Longest Day", it's an old movie made in the 60's I think, starring John Wayne, Robert Mitchum, ahh i can't remember the rest, but there's a lot of good actors from that time period in it.

So Kyle keeping it to yourself I see. Why don't you just give your reasons to not liking him. Don't lie and say You don't like someone when you don't even know why you think they suck.

i've already explained why i dont like him in a topic about him that was made maybe 2 years ago. look there if you care.

I like the Alice in Wonderland Quote, BTW Kyle. A very merry unbirthday to you, my friend!

And don't worry too much about Kyle, M.Night fan (personally, I think Night had one good movie and the rest have been going down hill), he pulls everyone's chain. He really is mad, you see. And I'm sure he has a perfectly good explanation for why he doesn't like somebody, he always does.

sorry if i came off as being an a$$, I just wasnt in the mood for talking about m night's movies.

and a very merry unbirthday to you, too, Forsaken

I wish I could do that.