How can you list Barry Lyndon as one of your favorite movies? I've seen every single Kubrick film and by far Barry Lyndon is thee worst. Anyone else agree here?
quote:Originally posted by kubrick77: A Clockwork Orange The Shining Full Metal Jacket Raging Bull Requiem for a Dream American Beauty Seven Fight Club The Game Jaws Saving Pvt Ryan Trainspotting 2001 A Space Odyssey Eyes Wide Shut Barry Lyndon The Big Lebowski Magnolia Boogie Nights Brazil Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas .... and the list goes on.
i just can't give a top ten, i can't rank them, but only list my fav films of all time. there are too many!!
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I don't know exactly what it is that you're saying in your message, it's a little unclear. What I do gather is that you're a Kubrick fan who likes all of his films EQUAL. This seems really strange to me being that no film, especially his, can be called upon as EQUALS. You cannot compare his early works of Fear and Desire and Killer's Kiss as equals of Clockwork or Full Metal Jacket. There is no way!!! It's a completely foolish observation saying this. Kubrick started off as a nobody and with lots of hard work blossomed into a great filmmaker. Nobody gave a ratâs ass about his first films and you know what they STILL don't aside from hard-core cinefiles. Why? Because frankly, they suck. There's no point on dwelling on them other than to observe the beginnings of his career and style. Each film showcases more and more of who âKubrickâ was as he himself discovered it.
Now I would also like to say that more than likely Iâve seen more of his films than you have. Iâve watched his very first film-shorts, Day of the Fight,The Flying Padre, and Fear and Desire. Which are absolutely unavailable. I owe this directly to James Harris the producer of Paths of Glory, The Killing, and Lolita. With whom I had the privilege of discussing Kubrickâs work and his experiences with him. This is of course part bragging and part saying that I am a true fan of Kubrick, but canât swallow everything that comes down the pipe. Nor should you.
quote:Originally posted by Hill Dawson Kane: first of all see that kubrick 77 is a stanley kubrick admirer. so am i. i like all of kubs films in equalness as all equally brilliant (thoug oddly hes not in my top ten). i think you are mixing up thed difference between a good choice and a bad choice. a good choice might be citizen kane, pulp fiction, fight club, or any kub film. a bad choice would be crossroads, a walk to remember, dude wheres my car, bio-dome etc... with movies like the last 4 i mentioned i would never argue barry lyndon being in a top ten. thats how i see it.
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Geez man what is with you? When did I EVER say that a person's first film isn't any good? That wasn't what I was saying at all. Can you read?
In simple terms I was saying that Kubrick's first films are not all equal, his first ones weren't very good, and that you shouldn't treat his movies as being complete equals.
As far as first time movies go. Duh, even geniuses sometimes donât come out with a classic movie right out the gate. Reservoir Dogs by the way is Tarentino's Second feature. His first was My Best Friend's Birthday. He later denied even making it.
quote:Originally posted by Hill Dawson Kane: the drift i get from u is that everyones first few films arent as good as the ones made in their prime. thats very nice. i will take your advice and totally write off citizen kane, resevoir dogs, and american beauty.
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quote: Reservoir Dogs by the way is Tarentino's Second feature. His first was My Best Friend's Birthday. He later denied even making it.
People can argue this till the sun explodes. But in my opinion, considering "My Best Friends Birthday" was never complete, I don't consider it a film. You can buy it on the net but it's got really crappy quality and sound and has missing scenses (that were never filmed) therfor Reservoir Dogs his is first film.
And I don't think Tarantino has ever denied making My Best Friend's Birthday, I mean, he's IN THE FILM.
Plus it was never distributed or anything for profit, matter of fact, I think its in the public domain.
Yeah I know what you're saying Kyle...I was just trying to get technical with Hill because he's getting on my nerves. In Wensley Clarkson's book "Quentin Tarantino: Shooting from the Hip". He states that Quentin felt so bad about the quality of this film that he denied making it so that the studio wouldn't change their mind about him directing Reservoir Dogs.
My question to you though is if I make 5 almost complete student full length feature films and then I make a fully finaced professional film, is that my 6th film or my first? And honestly does it REALLY mater?
quote:Originally posted by Kyle Johnson:
quote: Reservoir Dogs by the way is Tarentino's Second feature. His first was My Best Friend's Birthday. He later denied even making it.
People can argue this till the sun explodes. But in my opinion, considering "My Best Friends Birthday" was never complete, I don't consider it a film. You can buy it on the net but it's got really crappy quality and sound and has missing scenses (that were never filmed) therfor Reservoir Dogs his is first film.
And I don't think Tarantino has ever denied making My Best Friend's Birthday, I mean, he's IN THE FILM.
Plus it was never distributed or anything for profit, matter of fact, I think its in the public domain.
quote: My question to you though is if I make 5 almost complete student full length feature films and then I make a fully finaced professional film, is that my 6th film or my first? And honestly does it REALLY mater?
I guess that depends on what your opinion on a "feature film is"
To me a "feature film" is totally seperate from a "student feature film" ya know? To me a "feature film" is something u make when you have a budget, real actors, good equipment, ect. But thats just my opinion.
Whereas a student feature can be feature length but not really considered a "Feature"
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