The lamest box set I've ever seen, I saw the other day at Best Buy. It was the two new Stars Wars, not even special editions, just in a stupid little paper sleeve. It was like $45.00, what a rip off, you could probably get them individually for under $30.00. The new Star Wars piss me off.

get the martin scorsese box set, it comes with mean streets
goodfellas
after hours
alice doesnt live here anymore
whos that knockin at my door?

all special editions with commentaries from the man for a fifty or less if you buy online. thats quite a bargain if your a fan of scorsese.

if youve got the cash criterion dvds are very nice if your into foreign stuff. brazil criterion dvd is a killer three disc set.

I hope someone agrees, because KillBill is the most overated piece of **** I have seen since Donnie Darko.

KillBill=Leone rip off.

KillBill has no style. OK, let me correct that, it has an obnoxious style. You could be watching the original films that Tarantino ****ing ripped off and have a much better time. Uma Thurman is the least cool character I have ever scene and the dialogue in that film literally made me sick.

I hope Heliotrope can back me up on this.

I'm a huge Sergio Leone fan, and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly is my favorite film of all time. Watching part one made me not want to watch part two, of where I hear he stole several songs right from Leone's movies (with the help of Morricone- why???)

I'm sorry, there's a difference between homage, and ripping off other people's stuff and then butchering it to make it "RAD" enough to appeal to today's stupid ****ing youth.

Donnie Darko sucked horse balls too. It was stupid and Jake Gylenhaal is so annoying to look at. The whole time he looked like he was about to cry. I'm glad the ****ing engine slammed into his ****ing face at the end, he deserved it for looking like a douchebag.

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Now, the rest of that list looks fine, especially Taxi Driver, which ranks number 2 on my list. That's perhaps the most realistic film ever written.

Check out some of Jim Jarmusch's stuff (Dead Man, Ghost Dog). They're hard to find, but if you have patience his films are very different and entertaining. Start off with Ghost Dog.

if youve watched all the old kung fu flicks from the 70s then that should you enjoy volume one all the more. of course if you cant get past the fact that hes ripping off movies (which is fine with me, he does a great job in my opinion) then i guess thats all his movies will ever be, copies. how do you know hes butchering spagetti western influences in volume 2 if you havent seen it? and i would consider his borrowing of different genres as homages and not stealing since he still has that tarintino dialogue that trademarks his movies. i guess if you dont like a movie then the influences in it are "stealing" but if you like it then its a "homage". i agree with you on jarmusch though, one of my favorite directors. id say to start with mystery train though, as that is ussually the most accesible and the most representative of his style.

GHost Dog is not a good movie.

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I'm sorry, there's a difference between homage, and ripping off other people's stuff and then butchering it to make it "RAD" enough to appeal to today's stupid ****ing youth.

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It sure is a good thing we have such revolutionary films now like LOTR, Spiderman 2, and Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2

Ghost Dog did not suck, unless you took it completely seriously and didn't look at the combination of humorous tongue in cheek culture pokes and actually pretty deep meaning's in Ghost Dog's words. Plus Forest Whitaker is awesome.

Personally I think Ghost Dog is easier to get, I always see copies of it in the 10 dollar bin, and I've only found one Dead Man DVD. I don't even think they sell Night on Earth in Region 1 DVD, but Ghost Dog I think has the most "action" and the hip hop culture is better for mainstream people to ease into. Most people can't take slow moving movies, which is Jarmusch's usual style.


Spiderman 2- never saw it but hated part 1.
LOTR- First was good, second sucked, third was ok.
Baby Geniuses 2-.....Maybe better than the Mask 2 and Police Academy 8?


The point is I go mainly on instinct. Watching part one of Kill Bill made me literally sick and cringe to watch. Uma Thurman SUCKS, and if Tarantino didn't make it, you would have booed it.

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but the same goes for any film with any director. if ur familiar with them then u understand. i meen i would have thought 2001: a space odyssey would have been made by some lame foreign director had i not known it was kubrick and absolutely loved Lolita and Dr. Strangelove. I mean from Strangelove to 2001 u get two films on total opposites of the film spectrum, yet because i respect and know of kubrick, it makes all the difference. same goes for the thin red line, ha di not known Terrence Malick from Badlands and Days of Heaven I would have been pissed to not seen a glor-holio SPR war film showing Americans in glorious battle. I would not have understood the use of nature and like most ppl, would have hated it. but because i knew who it was, it made a difference in my opinion, and so it should. i meen look at society and how we live. our clothes our cars etc... are based on a name and a label. i mean who would buy an overpriced bmw or rolls royce unless it was for the name and the respect that comes with it. so of course i wouldnt have understood kill bill, cause i wouldnt have understood what QT is about.

I liked Tarantino's other work, and I knew what he was about, and I didn't like it. The movie sucked. Plain and simple.

I LOVED Kill Bill 2, one of the best movies ive ever seen. With that said, I hated Kill Bill 1. I thought it was a drawn out B Gore movie with bad dialogue and a simplistic storyline. It was one giant fight scene. I really want to see both films cut together again, to see if that changes my opinion. I think by adding back in portions of 2 into 1 itll help spread/flesh out the action and make it more complete.

On a side note, the only part of ghost dog i liked was the ice cream guy.

1. HDK, that was one of your best posts ever.

2. Particle, watch Kill Bill as ONE movie. Thats what it is. You really shouldnt review the films as 2, it's ment as ONE film, the reason for its split was the dumb Miramax guys wanting more money.

3. Larry; so you judge a movie on whether or not mainstream people will like it or not? and because Ghost Dog has hip hop you think more people will like it? I don't care if anyone likes a certain film, if I like it, I LIKE IT. and mainstream audiences suck. and ghost dog was slow moving, but waaay too slow. What was all the unnecessary scenes with Forrest driving around at night listening to music and trying to look cool? the cartoon 'tongue in cheek' stuff was stupid, and there was waaay too much cartoon footage, we're watching a movie, not a cartoon, focus on the characters, not what they are watching.

Firstly I totally agree with Kyle on Ghost Dog, all the scenes of Forest walking around silently, and the lengthy steal a car and play music stuff was too much. The movie was jokey but took itself too seriously. Secondly,If i were to consider kill bill as 1 film in its current state, then i dislike the first half and love the second. I read somewhere that the halfs had already been rededit back to 1 whole film for cannes. hopefully intermixed and not just 1 tacked onto 2, and i intend to really like that movie when i see it.

the company that distrubutes ghost dog (palm media or whatever it is) also has a movie called "6 string samurai" that isnt great but's worth checking out.

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I liked Tarantino's other work, and I knew what he was about, and I didn't like it. The movie sucked. Plain and simple.

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well, at least ur aware of his other work, but then u have to understand how he is influenced by so many films and forms of cinema, and therefore understand why he made kill bill the way he did, i mean, had it not been done the way it was it would defeat the point of all of the homages and links to the films of leone etc... but one could say that ppl would say it suct had they not seen any leone films, or not known where the music came from (that siren music when she arrives at Copperhead's house) it would mean nothing, and u wouldn't understand. much like how the marilyn monroe picture in the bathroom in Forrest Gump would also be meaningless, in fact without any knowledge of history Forrest Gump in itself is useless and crappy

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1. HDK, that was one of your best posts ever.

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coming from someone who has 2347 posts, that means alot to me

"I read somewhere that the halfs had already been rededit back to 1 whole film for cannes. hopefully intermixed and not just 1 tacked onto 2, and i intend to really like that movie when i see it."

yeah, its also as ONE film in one of the 6 DVDs. or maybe 2 of the six. damn miramax money *****s.

i mean, think of how stupid someone would look if they had like 6 versions of their film on this site, a wide screen version, a standard version, a commentary version, a commentary by kyle version, a directors cut version, a one year anniversary renewal with a message from the director at the start and on and on... its just stupid

I don't care about mainstream audiences at all- I was saying for most people Ghost Dog is the best Jarmusch movie to start out with.

And Ghost Dog is slow moving, yes. But I like that. I think the car rides, the shots of the Ghetto, him stealing cars were all very atmospheric and wonderful to watch and listen to. If you didn't like that, you must have HATED Dead Man.


Now, with Kill Bill...the problem it's just one big mish mash of omage's that really aren't entertaining. What's so special about the story? Nothing. Is Uma Thurman's character cool? No. Does it have it's own style? No. Anything that's cool was ripped directly from some other movie. hell, couldn't YOU do the same thing with a bunch of money and camera and crew? SO what are we watching: a movie made by a fan- who, instead of using his influences to make something creative, just put together his favorite clips from movies. I'm sorry, but when I watched the movie, I didn't like it. The fake blood wasn't cool, it didn't make me think of how cool it was that he ws paying homage to B-movie KungFu films. it made me think about how much those movies sucked, but at least they sucked with some originality. But the point is: I watched the movie, and regardless of everything else, I DIDN'T LIKE IT. It didn't just bore me, it made me want to throw up. literally. I was embarassed to walk out of the theater.


And by the way, Quentin Tarantino is way too ****ing full of himself. He makes himself out to be a God.


On a side note I think it's hilarious that he was worried that Thurman is not eligable for a best Actress Oscar because of the whole Kill Bill split into two parts. As if she would even be nominated...

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On a side note I think it's hilarious that he was worried that Thurman is not eligable for a best Actress Oscar because of the whole Kill Bill split into two parts. As if she would even be nominated...

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You seem to forget that its a Miramax film, and regardless of what u think of her portrayal (i personally thought it was Uma's best performance since Pulp), Miramax is the kind of studio that "buys" oscars and nominations,

and **** the oscars all the same

i know the day will never come, but if I ever win an Oscar, I'll go up to the stand, hold it, then go, "F*** THE OSCARS!" and then slam the statue onto the ground ultimately breaking it (I might even piss on it)

I would like to make the undisputed best film of the year for 2005, and not let it be nominated for any oscars, that way the poor sap who accepted for best picture would be like "wow, i cant believe it, my first oscar, um lets see id like to thank the academy, my wife.....10 minutes later oh, and um, id like to thank HDK for hating these awards, refusuing to be a part of them and not coming tonight cause i know while my film was good, urs was just awesome man, HDK, this ones for u" of course i would never know the guy had said it cause i dont watch the ceremonies, but i would like for it to happen

but if i were to get nominated all the same, and i won, i would send kyle to accept it for me, he could be my Sacheen Littlefeather