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This is a little off topic but on at the same time... (Huh?) Oh let me just get on with it.. There are plenty of rumors about the casting couch. For those unaware this is where directors and producers recieve "favors" from potential actresses in exchange for rolls and is essentially hinted at above (even if in jest) When i met Robert Evans (for those who dont know he is a famous producer and was president of Paramount pictures for over ten years seeing films like "Rosemarys Baby" and "The Godfather" made under his time there) someone asked him about any good "casting couch stories". This actually pissed him off and he went on a little jag about the misnomer of the "CC" and how any actress who tries this eithere wont meet with success or it will be short lived (for an example see Sharon Stone) "No self respecting actress would ever agree to such a thing" he said, and its true. As to this particular short the secret is simple. Get to know them when they are young. Become friends with that girls next door and start putting her in films. I have several friends who did this and now have very pretty, very talented, and most of all very commited actresses for their films. If I am not mistaken she has been with Stephen since the begining. I didnt have to read his response to know she probablly helps out with every aspect of the production, afterall she is "One of the guys". I once had someone tell me the only people they could find to work on their films were girls and they were complaining about this. If your single, and have women who want to pull cables for you go for it. Nothing wrong with that. If they can act even better. We can get are dumb, possibly stoner friends to be in our films but most have trouble finding females since they see the camera and think "porn". Stephen simply has her respect and trust in him as a film maker. I doubt she would have done that for just anyone. Shes a valuable asset. She sells movies and gets to be a creative influence as a result. Good work Stephen. R. Michael "Luck, is when opportunity, meets preperation." "There are 3 sides to every story. Yours, mine, and the truth, and none of us are lying" -Robert Evans Tizzy Entertainment "Redemption" Hi-Def trailer
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| Posts: 1534 | Location: WPB, Florida | Registered: November 22, 2002 |    |
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..for anyone really interested  let's see... the review says something about the fight scene's, they're clearly not actually making contact with eachother.. well for your information, Mr., we're not trained fighters but for being in heels, and never being in a fight before, we did damn good! Also, Amber (girl in black) she hit me a whole hell of alot. Take for example the part where amber punches at me and the camera comes in from the back... (it's also at the end) Amber actually hit me in the face, causing me to push back while stephen was moving in way too close and the camera hit me HARD in the back of the head... so if you think we didn't get hit in this, i'm sorry it didn't look as good as it should have :P but you know what? We had fun, and i think my sister had alot of fun hitting me. - Mahri *~.~* *jenni
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| Posts: 23 | Location: CA | Registered: June 21, 2003 |    |
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Hey. First off, Mr. Tizzy was right. Jen was my math teachers aid when I was 14. Also, since some people are curious about cameras and what not, Mahri's was shot on the DVX-100 (although we didn't know everything about it, so some settings weren't up to what they could have been for some shots). I love this camera to death (not mine though) and it actually looks better on TV than on a small quicktime screen. As for the fight choreography, I take reponsability for that. You know, the director's in charge; if somethings wrong with the movie, it's up to the director, not so much anyone else.
As for the "how long did this take" question: We were on a really strict timeline for this thing...About 3-4 weeks before San Diego comic con we were given the opportunity to show it. So I came up with shots/what happens/storyboard type stuff in a week or 2 (while at the same time me and Jen would get props together as I wrote them in), we shot it in 3 days and I edited it for a week. Straight. No breaks. But it was shown, and tons of pervert old men would stop and watch and make old pervert men comments. It was a neat experience.
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| Posts: 146 | Location: Dublin, Ca, US | Registered: June 02, 2003 |    |
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quote: Originally posted by Kyle Johnson: Battlefield Ultimate 100% is the closest live action has come to Anime.
-TacoWagonProductions
On this site perhaps...but I would say in general that would definitly be Kill Bill. Anyway, just saw Mahri's Revenge; great flick. I loved the editing and camerawork, it's my style. ----------------- "Me? I'm dishonest. And you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones, you want to be afraid of."
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| Posts: 270 | Location: Toronto | Registered: November 05, 2002 |    |
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but thats besides the point. I don't have to listen to anything you say. Go ahead, tell me to "Grow up" or be "mature" Whats that doing? What makes u so damn mature? You NEED people like me....someone you can point your finger at and go, "Thats the bad guy" Well check this out partna, your not "Good" or "mature" either...you just know how to hide and not get caught. Why don't YOU grow the hell up and realize that Kris Kimlin got what he deserved....if he hadn't done, what he did, he wouldn't be crying. What he said I thought was innapropriate (of a man of his caliber) -I use the term "man" loosely - but yeah, I can say whatever I want to an extent (dang moderators...you know who you are!!!) but as far as anything else goes.....say goodnight to the badguy, this may be the last time you see a bad guy like this!!!!
EDIT: Kyle has seen WAY too many movies recently and can't stop quoting them, that aside most this post was NOT sarcasm and is to be taken seriously.
[This message was edited by A Mean 'Ol Moderator on October 17, 2003 at 5:10 PM.]
-TacoWagonProductions
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| Posts: 3861 | Location: Sacramento, CA | Registered: July 21, 2003 |    |
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quote: At least you got tons of films under yout belt kyle...
What an interesting statement eh Kyle? I'll just let that one sit a while "Pain is temporary, Film is forever"-Peter Jackson "Art only does so much, and sometimes it doesn't even pay the bills!"-AFC President http://www.ErwinBrothers.com
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| Posts: 325 | Location: United States | Registered: June 12, 2003 |    |
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First off, I would like to point out that there is, among a bunch of pointless nonesense, truth behind what a lot of what Kyle Johnson says.
The comments made by Kris Kimlin (whom, by the way has no films on this site eiter, and the most he can boast about is a demo reel on his own site) were offensive and degrading, and he needed to be taken down a peg. It wasn't malicious... well maybe it was malicious, but first and foremost it was quite truthful what Kyle said.
As far as Mahri's Revenge goes, great film, with great insight? No. Was it meant to be? No. It was supposed to be campy and funny and cheap, and it was. It succeeded. It succeeded the same way any great director succeeds in getting across their message. The only difference being in what is meant to be communicated. In Mahri's case, it was to be comedic, in Citizen Kane's case, it was to show the degrading nature of opulence (or whatever you want to believe). On top of all this, Reedy displays great mastery of the medium, every camera angle, movement and edit was used to get his tone across; a talent that is quite sparse among most film directors including those here, on this site.
So, even if it didn't deal with a teenage relationship in black and white photography, or about a janitor stalker in B&w, or about a young neglected teenage girl... in B&W, Mahri's Revenge is a great example of masterful filmmaking.
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| Posts: 160 | Location: Colorado | Registered: February 22, 2003 |    |
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quote: The comments made by Kris Kimlin (whom, by the way has no films on this site eiter, and the most he can boast about is a demo reel on his own site)
Zulu, I am in a damned if I do, damned if I don't situation. If I don't put up a film on studentfilms.com I get statements like yours. If I do put them up, I will get harrassed for putting one up because I have the money, all the lights I need, jib's, stedicam, dolly and track, multiple camera's, etc. And who is it that complains? people like you. If you want me to post a movie so bad then I will, but if I do, dont say that I am just a "Michael Bay" wanna be so to speak. I had decided that I would not post one for this reason. I AM NOT A STUDENT FILMMAKER ANYMORE. I do this for a living. I have a distinct advantage in that I have finished my schooling and have access to all the equipment that you all want to use. Many times I have talked about a certain work I have done and have been chastized by people like yourself because I had a budget to work with. Then come the complaints...I mean what in the world am I supposed to do! I am sorry that I have worked hard and I am fufilling my dreams to work in this field. I didnt know it was a crime to have a big budget to make a movie, or commercial. This is why I think many of you think its more "CREATIVE" to work on a small, or next to nothing budget, cause when ever someone talks about how they had a big budget, or had state of the art equipment, you chastize them. I come to this forum to give advice to people who ask for it, and to see whom I might work with in this field in the future. If you want to see my work, fine I will make something for you...but I will use all the excessories possible, and it will not be your Robert Rod. gurilla style film. It will be as close to a Michael Bay style film as possible. And when I make it, what will I hear? Oh he just has all the money and equipment to make his films...he has no talent, just money. This Zulu is why I dont post a movie on this site. Cause why waste my time with that sort of outcome. Its simply pathetic. And to correct you Zulu, I did post a student film in one of the forums and asked people to go see it. Sure enough people complained. Oh, and as for the comment, why dont you try reading the thread...it said nothing negative about S.Reedy's film, or the actress. In fact I stated that what I had said was probably not the way S.Reedy did things. You should probably read the thread before running your mouth. "Assume-Makes and Ass out of You and Me!" And for you to say that what I said was offensive, and then defend 90% of Kyle's statments...come'on get off of it pal. When did you get so mature? "Pain is temporary, Film is forever"-Peter Jackson "Art only does so much, and sometimes it doesn't even pay the bills!"-AFC President http://www.ErwinBrothers.com
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| Posts: 325 | Location: United States | Registered: June 12, 2003 |    |
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Kimlin, your excuse is a cop-out. I can see not posting because your a professional now, but to not do something in fear of failure? What kind of way is that?
No one would chastize you for having money and access to equipment, and if they did, then they are just stupid. I have no problem with big-budget films (not to get off topic), but thinking that a big budget and jibs and cranes, etc are going to make your film great is the problem I have. You can find great examples of both extravagent and minimal styles in film. If you like all the jibs and movements etc, great. Oh, but don't think I'm agreeing with you, because then I continued on down in your post and read this little line concerning any film you do make, "It will be as close to a Michael Bay style film as possible." What the hell is that all about? If you like Bay's style fine, but then you're gonna copy it? I'm baffled. This is not what filmmaking is about. This is not what style's about! Alright, let me start over, calmer now. Why do you want to copy Bay's style as close "as possible?" What purpose does that serve? Cuz the pictures are purdy? How is that going to help your film? Style should be a product of the film, not the other way around. Because everything that makes style: the cinematography, editing, whatever, should all be employed to best tell your film; not in a way that is neccessarily going to be best looking, but that is going to convey the emotions and meanings of the scene the best way. That is the best kind of cinematography, and editing, and whatever. You can either have it two ways; aesthetically pleasing style and a mediocre-at-best film, or you can have appropriate style and a great-at-best film.
Anyways, sorry to go off topic so drastically.
P.S. This is just plain adorable: "Assume-Makes an Ass out of You and Me!"
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| Posts: 160 | Location: Colorado | Registered: February 22, 2003 |    |
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quote: If you want me to post a movie so bad then I will, but if I do, dont say that I am just a "Michael Bay" wanna be so to speak.
quote: I will use all the excessories possible, and it will not be your Robert Rod. gurilla style film. It will be as close to a Michael Bay style film as possible.
Ok is it just me or does that kinda contradict?
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thank you again for proving my point...your an ass! "Pain is temporary, Film is forever"-Peter Jackson "Art only does so much, and sometimes it doesn't even pay the bills!"-AFC President http://www.ErwinBrothers.com
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| Posts: 325 | Location: United States | Registered: June 12, 2003 |    |
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