I'm sure we have all noticed the all too over used cliche music from films like SPR, American Beauty, and of course, Requiem for a Dream. Well, I recently saw a trailer for "King Arthur" on tv for the DVD and guess what song they had? that's right, the requiem theme, how ironic is it that we always point out using RFAD theme as a bad thing and next thing u know King Arthur rips it off, weird hey.

i love you Kane.

i'm personalyl tired of cliches to a point where its making me insane. Cliched cinematography, characters, stories, plots, music style.

its disgusting me how cliches are taking over everything.

Hah! are you sure its that and not just another Kronos quartet piece? they are somewhat consistent Do you have alink by any chance?

Yeah, the whole RFAD soundtrack is too strongly associated with that movie, and some filmmakers (students and occasional professionals) can't understand that logic.

The LOTR trailers for the final part used Clint Mansell's music, which is what requiem for a dream uses.

Speaking of ripping off music.....People tend to rip off matrix music as well. Blade 3 used that classic Matrix theme in their trailer. I didn't see the movie because I generally hate those types of movies (you know the kind - the ones where the studio is just trying to pull in loads of money from teen to young adult crowds by putting in expensive action/fight scenes, hot girls, "popular" music, and stupid one-liners).

Anyway, point being: There needs to be some creativity in the movies that are coming on this site. Let's think for ourselves and not rip others off! Even if you are going to use already copyrighted music, use something that isn't already incorporated with anything else. Try something without vocals. Makin movies shouldn't be easy. It should take work to make it the way you want. You have to go out there and do your homework, research, get original/semi-original soundtrack, and write something that isn't playing on TBS or the "Big Sunday Movie." And definitely shy away from movies that everyone loves. Because chances are, they love that movie so much that if they see someone else trying to rip it off, they will hate the rip off.

Okay, I am done ranting. sorry.

I cant believe you people are bagging out Kronos Quartet!
Hos exactly is their score for Requiem for a Dream cliche?
Do you HDK know anything about music, or do you randomly talk out your ***?
Ill admit whenever you see John Williams name its bound to be derivitive and unoriginal, but where did you hear a score like RFAD before that film?
Sure, other films have ripped it off since then, but not before....it was totally original and frankly a great piece of musicianship.
Next you will probably say Vangelis' Blade Runner score (my all time favourite album) was weak and uninspired as was Angelo Badalamenti's Twin Peaks score.
Kronos quartet added a breath of fresh air into the film score world which has been getting worse for a long time now.
You might be a closet film critic HDK, but dont give it up to be a music critic, as you dont know ****!

drummer I don't think he was bagging the score itself, but other filmmaker's use of it in their films (e.g. on this site), and he was making the point that even the trailer for a major hollywood film was using it.

HillDawsonKane: I don't think the film's director or producer would be responsible for the trailer for the DVD though would they? I would assume they've moved onto other projects, and the studio handles things like that.

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Do you HDK know anything about music, or do you randomly talk out your ***?

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First of all, yes (about talking out of my ***), but I know enough to hear when they've taken the adsact same song from RFAD, and sped it up slightly to disguise it. but when there are tons of films with that music its not hard to recognize it. basically i think Bnew said it right in his post and you misunderstood my point. it was based on several threads in the past and film reviews where original music has been a hot topic, and its been said that we look amatuer when we use other music that and stuff so recognizable. Of course I think it's a great piece of music, and i think RFAD is a great film.

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You might be a closet film critic HDK, but dont give it up to be a music critic, as you dont know ****!

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I'm not a critic at all, and i dont know anything about music. I get someone else to do original music for my films and even my trailers have original music. I just think its pretty sad when a 100 million dollar film can't even get original music for their trailers with so many good composers out there, and therefore it is understandable why ppl here do the same thing, but is much better to go with an original score. Hope my intentions with this thread are clearer now, sorry if i misworded things before

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HillDawsonKane: I don't think the film's director or producer would be responsible for the trailer for the DVD though would they? I would assume they've moved onto other projects, and the studio handles things like that.

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yes, thats deffinetely worth taking into account

Angry: Yeah, Vangelis' Blade Runner score was weak and uninspired. Ha. There. Whatcha gonna do about it? Stupid Vangelis. Bah.

Yeah, so what Bnew said, the RFaD soundtrack is cool, when it's playing on RFaD, not when it's playing on every studentfilm or movie trailer. It's just getting cliched to use it for your own movie. I feel the same way about the Fight Club soundtrack. I don't see the Dust Brothers pop up as much, and when they do it's usually alright, but I imagine it'll become as overused as any good, popular theme.
Oh, and I don't care about Vangelis, you just opened yourself up to it.

-Elliott

hey angryassdrummer, let's just settle down. you jumped to conclusions man! If you had actually read HDK's post close enough, you would have understood what he is talking about.

Or maybe you're just mad because you've used RFaD's music in a movie before? Maybe?

Let's not forget any music from Hans Zimmer, and the Signs soundtrack -- very overused in studentfilms, and I've even heard a couple of trailers ripping off of Zimmer's Journey To the Line. That just makes me mad.

Ah...Journey to the Line. What a great song. So intense and emotional.

What ripped that off?

great first post in this topic, Durden. I totally agree.

The fight club music gets ripped off a lot too. it's really annoying.

i can't stand the requiem sound track anymore.

So basically any big movie in the past 10 years has been ripped off by everyone. Yup, that sounds about right.

Not until recently, have a started using original music. For a long time I borrowed music because I was practicing and had no intention of showing the movie to anybody but family and friends.
But now Arya (A member on this site) is hammering out a soundtrack for me. He's really good, and I reccomend him to anyone here. He's constantly in communication and asks all the right questions to get what you want. Very easy chap to work with.
This movie is what I intend to show to the world. I'm breaking out of the box. I'm sending it to film festivals and the such, to hopefully make some dough for my NEXT project which will be even bigger!

E.S. Posthmus ~ Nara is also becoming as frequently used, moreso in Hollywood than student films. It's the "Cold Case" theme song used originally (I think) in "Unfaithful" and after becoming "Cold Case"'s theme, it went on to be in "The Clearing" and "Vanity Fair", accomplishing all of this in the past two years. Pretty soon this song will suffer the same overused fate of RFAD and it sucks because they're great songs.

i saw a commercial the other day with the violins from requiem too. i was very perturbed.
-martha

"I just think its pretty sad when a 100 million dollar film can't even get original music for their trailers with so many good composers out there"

Do you know anything about trailers? Do you honestly think lack of funds is the reason why trailers sometimes use prerecorded music?

Often, a trailer is required before the actual soundtrack is completed. Look at Sin City - the trailer uses an instrumental version of some rock song, I forget the title. You think that's going to be in the final movie? I doubt it.

"Cells" by The Servant is the name of the song.

Again, I don't think the argument is about the money or anything like that. It's about the fact that a huge movie production should be able to find it's own music, instead of copping it from a very popular and recognizable movie soundtrack. Everyone knows that Matrix song that Blade Trinity used. And a lot of people also know the requiem song too. They're arguing that the filmmakers should at least get something original for their movie/trailer.

The song in Sin City's trailer is not something that is already correlated with another movie, so that argument doesn't really stand well with what this post was about.