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Hello,

I am working on a short movie (no budget), and there is 1 scene were a person stands in a 100% empty room, a pure white room.

I say room, but i think "Space" is a better word for it, just him and the never ending white space..

I read millions of websites pages (so it feels..) and i haven't figure out a solution...

I can do it with chromakey, but i dont have a studio (or good lights for that matter) and i can make average good keys, but NOT on a pure white background, because the edges always look very bad on pure white (whit a normal background you dont see everything)

So.. iam realy need a solution for this.. but how? i hope someone has a idea!

Thanks already
 
Posts: 229 | Location: The Netherlands, Beverwijk | Registered: August 08, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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i have a suggestion for you but first i have to warn you that i don't know that much about my suggestion. As a matter of fact you may have covered it already but i'll throw it out there anyway. What about using a green screen and then changing it to white later? Like I said i don't know much about green screen but from what i've read/heard they fairly cheap and easy to make.


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Yeah, chroma keying/greenscreening it is a possibility... but might not look that good.

What camera do you have? If it has manual features it may be better to try to create a good white background (build it with a frame, and some white fabric which curves down to meet the floor), some distance from your actor, and then blow it out with super bright lights. if you keep the tripod locked down, or keep movement to a minimum and use garbage mattes you could paint out any imperfections later.


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Actually for compositing someone on a white background, greenscreening is not a bad way to go. You probably want the "artificial" look rather than an actual white-painted room, which would have some texture, flaws, shadows, as well as seams where the floor and walls meet. If you want the THX1138 look or the "construct" portions from the first Matrix, I would greenscreen it.
 
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Thanks everyone!

Well, i am after the look of a complety white space, so it must not look like a white room.

Iam worried about shadows on the ground, if i buy a very large white cloth (couple of them) and light the background, than there are no shadows in the background, but how is it possible to light the ground? i mean... the shadow must go some place...

So thats also a thing were iam worried about,
you have given me 2 ideas:

1. greenscreen
2. real white with big lights

But whats better?

Greetings,
Jerry
 
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i would go with more of a green-room, where the actor can stand on the green/white so it gets more of a "spacey" feel, but you have to make sure to curve the green from the wall to the ground so there are no edges, also, your going to need a TON of lights to eliminate shadows, make sure the room your in is air conditioned, lol
 
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I have made the movie,
its 8 minutes long,

I have used a green cloth and uses a heavy light wrap (in post production) so the person is surrounded by a heavy white light, and thats good, because in real life, every object or person, would be overexposued when standing in a very bright pure white room.

I have also used the same green cloth for filming a stair (ladder) that is higher than the clouds.
There i have no lightwrap and the keying seems to be very good (for a 1 chip mini dv camcorder)

Iam very glad with the results.

Thanks for the anwers all of you!

* the movie is in Dutch so i dont think you can understand it, so i dont send it to studentfilms.com, too bad, but i dont think people want to see a dutch language movie?
 
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great to hear!

you could put subtitles in the movie.


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Use a white infinity backdrop. (You can buy them on ebay for about 60$)If the backdrop isn't big enough garbage matte the sides out in post.Also if you want it to look surealistic use the glow plug-in for AE offered by walker effects to make the overexposed white background glow. Wink


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Posts: 295 | Location: Montreal, Quebec | Registered: April 27, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Originally posted by Diego:
Use a white infinity backdrop. (You can buy them on ebay for about 60$)If the backdrop isn't big enough garbage matte the sides out in post.Also if you want it to look surealistic use the glow plug-in for AE offered by walker effects to make the overexposed white background glow. Wink


Thanks for the tip,
but i have already used greenscreen.
 
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