For all of you canucks who have CBC's NEWSWORLD at home, check out the special airing tonight on passionate eye entitled THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON. It is a collection of facts and interviews stating that the first lunar landing in 1969 might have been a fake...

Now we all know more or less about this one being a vast conspiracy, but the show tonight will take on an interesting point of view. Some might already know the Lunar Landing - Kubrick connection, but for me, this one came as a surprise.

It is said that during that period, the States were under pressure with the ongoing Vietnam war and other global issues. President Nixon, who by the way, was a big fan of Stanley Kubrick (especially Dr. Strangelove), needed to relieve some stress. One theory explains that Nixon needed to broadcast images or footage of the lunar landing, or else the whole mission would have been a waste of money. He was scared that the population would doubt certain facts concerning the landing, so he needed to bring a visual medium to capture the nation.

Here's where the great Mr. Kubrick comes into play. Since Nixon was a big fan of Stanley's films, he was intent on getting him to direct the lunar landing. And how convenient... Kubrick had just finished shooting 2001, and the soundstage hadn't been destroyed. Now it is said that the CIA were to take the project in their hands. When Kubrick saw how badly the CIA personel were handling the cameras, he demanded that he filmed the project by himself. The team went over to the 2001 set and filmed the lunar landing as we know it.

Certainly, some of you will refuse to accept this idea, but I have to say, there is some interesting facts that could reinforce it. For example, it is said that X-rays and ultraviolet rays from the sun would drastically alter the film. The film would fog, and due to atmoshpheric conditions, colors would alter and the film would be totally distorted. However, on the footage we all saw, the film looked just fine... There also other things that have been noticed in the footage. Like a television camera and individual reflected in the helmet of Neil Armstrong...

So is Kubrick responsible? Was the Lunar Landing his production?

just makes you wonder...

There are also facts to reinforce that the Earth is flat.

Interesting, yes, but true? I highy doubt it.

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This is the stupidest thing ever. We did go to the moon. There was no conspiracy.

Check this out:

Bad Astrononmy.com

It debunks ALL of the conspiracy claims.

-Chris
Studentfilms.com

that site is great! i love the way each and every argument is dispelled efortlessly!

Stirling | Dueling the Fates @ Zomp

First of all, I wasn't saying I believed all of this, of course. I was just saying how interesting some of the stuff they were discussing. One of you guys said : <<That was stupid. Of course we went to the moon.>> In the post, I wasn't saying we didn't go to the moon. Of course we went to the moon, but that doesn't mean what was broadcasted on television was real, right?

What was broadcasted on television WAS real.

That is the actual footage.

That site will show you that as well.

If NASA scientists can figure out how to get people to the moon, I think they can figure out how to protect film from getting fogged from radiation.

-Chris

Besides, have you SEEN film special FX shots from the 60s?

They are extremely fake looking. No CGI back then.

We'd be able to spot a special fx shot from a mile away...and so would thousands of amateur and professional astronomeurs.

-Chris

if you still think it's possible i'd be interested to hear why. those response were clearly scientific and un biased in method. do you have other reasons to doubt NASA besides the ones debunked in that article? you must see other holes in NASA's story.

i'm just curious, i myself entertain the possibleties of a whole bunch of weird stuff i see on tv and read about. but when it's held up and examined to such a degree as bad astronomy did i tend to agree with the conclusions.



Stirling | Dueling the Fates @ Zomp

now i'm playing devil's advocate with this, but if NASA scientists can figure out how to get people to the moon, I think they can also figure out how to create special FX that had an edge over the general FX in mainstream films during that period.

I mean, if NASA was faced with losing funding, and the general population were growing disinterested in the slow space progress, it's easy to see why NASA might want to pull a mass hoax. The astronauts involved would be seen as instant heros so they are not apt to tell, NASA wouldn't have to spend the millions or billions to send another crew into space, just hundreds of thousands to fake it, there wouldn't be casualties in any unforeseen accidents in the actual mission.

I personally am still undecided about the whole thing. i can see the flawed science in the conspiracy theorists points, but for some reason, i haven't totally bought into NASA's version. (and I've read that not all professional astronomers and scientists completely believe NASA too.)

And just because something was on TV does not make it fact. If that were the case, Mister Ed the talking horse can really talk!

" I won't show you tonight what requires many hours of progressive and
scientific exercises to even begin to make itself visable; besides I
would need space and air, and especially a head of steam -- which I
haven't got."

http://www.lostheadfactory.com

my above post is supposed to be AFTER yours, factory

Stirling | Dueling the Fates @ Zomp

I still find that bad astronomy article hilarious...they guy writing it is bringing across a sense that he has actually been on the moon and knows how everything there works.

people are so gullible.

as for my opinion, i dont know, nor do i really care. If it's fake, big whoop, good job. If not, hurray for NASA and their astronaughts.

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"Me? I'm dishonest. And you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones, you want to be afraid of."

Normally I wouldn't dignify this kind of conspiracy rubbish with a response but here's my definitive way to debunk the conspiracy.

Ask yourself where over $28 BILLION dollars (at 1960's - 1972 rates) went.

My guess would be developing the technology to get man to the moon and returning him safely to the earth ...

Richard Purves
Living Film
http://www.livingfilm.co.uk/

im pretty sure you can see the flag and lunar crap we left up there if you look at it with a high enough powered telescope. something like that wouldnt be hard to find out with todays technology.

if youre looking for a witty signature, youre looking in the wrong place.

Um...

Wasn't the footage live?

That means it's VIDEO not film.

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