I'm not quite sure how to explain this one. This is something that would be used to show someone in a drunk or confused state. Have you seen in movies before where the image on the screen seems to bend in a weird sort of way, like it was liquid? The only movie I can remember it happening in is in "Vulgar" during the rape scene. Does anybody know what I'm talking about and if so can you explain how it is done?

Thank You

Jake Small

This is just my opinion, but I don't think you should do a drunk POV at all, if your script doesn't depend on it. A lot of people know what it's like to be drunk, and the people who don't can make a pretty good guess, so it's reached the point where showing the point of view of a drunk is an unnecessary cliche (or an excuse to show off video effects!). And plus, keeping your audience detached from the world of your drunken character adds mood to your film. It's a skillful personal touch when you show your character hopelessly drunk and isolated from the world this way, but yet your film looks at your character objectively as well. It's esoteric, yet piquant. (Yeah, I see you running for your dictionary!)

i wont even bother,

however you did make some very good points

Listen, I don't want to sound rude or anything, but I didn't ask for your moral opinion. Can someone please just tell me how its done. I was hoping of using it for a trippy music video.

there is a blurring effect where the frames seem to dissolve into each other called 'trails' on sony consumer videocams, i used to work at best buy (hell) and i would make the up-tight customers loosen up and laugh by showing it to them and calling it 'drunk-vision'. there is probably a similar effect in premiere, fcp, or xdv... basically it lets each frame dissolve out and when things move, or the camera moves, you see a trail of the frames as they fade out. might work for you?

I think the effect your looking for is "distortion". Use keyframes in FCP to change the effect over time, achieving the "melting" look. Personally I think a very slow shutter speed effect is more reminiscent of a drunken perspective. The distortion effect I would attribute more to the use of psychotropic drugs.

BSPEED & dhorowitz. That was very kind of you.

I havent seen "Vulgar" (Though I know the composer who scored it, Ryan Shore (Howard Shores nephew) Very nice guy) so I cant give a specific idea, but my first thought is exactly what was mentioned before. You can layer video over itself timing it a second or so ehind the last track and altering the transperancy.

As to the comment about staying away from it or whatever... I find it funny since you didnt say you were using it as a drunk P.O.V. but simply wanted to know how it was done for something you were working on (later you mentioned it was for a music video)

Its another example of why the word ASS is in assumption. Not a shot, but lets all try and stay away from our personal opinions regarding what someone is doing on their project unless they specifically ask for our opinion. Even I have been guilty of this im sure, but it dosent make it right. We can never know the full vision the film maker in question has so why clutter the topic with opinions that dont matter eithere way?

Just my opinion. Haa, hows that for irony.
R. Michael

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Ya hear that, Tiz? He's gonna kick your ass through his computer! You gonna take that?

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Ah, not true, JW...I have a knack for figuring out addresses psychically. I'm already figuring out yours right now...J. Woolf...Loserville, USA...population...you.

I always thought the effect you're on about was straight out of funfairs!

Seriously, ever been to one of those stalls with the distorting mirrors that make people look fat or thin?

Imagine getting one of those type of mirrors, angling it 45 degrees from the subject you're filming and pointing the camera straight at the mirror. Now simply rotate the mirror as you film.

It's probably very tricky to do but that would be quite a cool disoriented effect if you combine it with a few close up shots of the drunk guy in question, staggering along for example.

Hope that helps.

Richard Purves
Living Film
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Originally posted by Dan Gross:
Ah, not true, JW...I have a knack for figuring out addresses psychically. I'm already figuring out yours right now...J. Woolf...Loserville, USA...population...you.

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Interesting...

Even though you went to the trouble of going to my website to find out my last name, you didn't care to look right under your nose to see the city where I actually live. Some knack you got there!

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OR did that "wink" smiley face above mean I was kidding about not kidding ?


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Doing shots that aren't cliche is SOOOOOO CLICHE

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Well if it helps any I took Dans comment with all the sarcasim and "just kidding" intended. We all gotta just take it e a s y. . . . .
R. Michael

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