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Oke, i do that! (keep adjusting)

I drive my parent mad!

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Thanks for your help.

Jerry
 
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It's not uncommon to spend a couple hours lighting a set Smile


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If it were me, I'd remove the chandelier, temporarily wiring a plug in it's place. Then rig one of your lights pointing strait down into an (aprox.) 3 foot by 5 foot diffuser, orientated the same way as the table, just above your widest framing, and have no practical light as a motivated source. Then fill as necessary.


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My parents have something like: just place a bright light in the room, and if you can record it without noise, than its good...

Joren, i dont get all of it, you talking about hanging my light to the ceiling?
 
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Joren, i dont get all of it, you talking about hanging my light to the ceiling?
 
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yes. If you don't want to build, or otherwise get a practical lamp that would work, this is an alternative that gives roughly the same quality of light.

Yet another, possibly much easier option is to use a china lantern just out of frame.


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This is 1 of my lights.

There is no way i can hang/put this lamp ABOVE the table, but maybe someone of you get a idea when watching this pictures...

And Joren, thanks!

Jerry
 
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I have my DVX100b

I dont have much time to practice with it, the shoot i was talking about in this threat is tomorrow, so i have a few more quistions.

I put my Hedler video light (300watt bulb) above the table (with a construction)
So the table is lit and the actors are too -hope-.

Then i lower the exposure, so that it seems to be less light.

Then iam afraid the actors and the backgrounds are going to be almost black, so if this is the case: i use a china ball/lantern with a regular 100watt lightbulb, to light the faces of the actors. Its a bit strange, because i only have 1 chinaball and iam going to move it between cuts. (to lit the actor if its to dark)

Thats it. Can this work? Are the any other suggestions?

- - - -
The quistion above is the most important, but i have another quistion to: Iam shooting this with scene file 6 (cinelike, cinelike D gamma, 25P) fabric settings.

Are there any tips for this scene (i post a picture from E.T. at the beginning of this topic wich i like) Is cinelike D advised for a shoot like this?

To make a long story short: if there are people with advice about the use of the scene file in combination with the lighting quistion: your VERY welcome!

Greetings,
Jerry
(sorry for the long text)

Oh, here is another example of lighting people around a table, but: the cadle lights (ceiling) are the real bright? or is it just for show and are the using other filmlights to light this shot? what do you think?

 
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Nevermind, i think this is the answer:



But my quistion about my own situation still stands, because i cannot do this shot with lights from the sides (in my livingroom, you see the lights, no matter how you frame)
 
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What do you think? of this test?
Today i shoot this with all of the actors, so please comment! (i dont have anymore time for testing but would love to hear some comment, is it to dark? grainy? light?)

We shot this with a contruction were the table light was hanging above the table (videolight) exposed the camera for the brighest light and we used 1 other light to fill up the black parts a bit, and a little table lamp for decoration.

ASPECT RATION IS SQUEESED 16:9, BUT PREMIERE MAKES 16:9 EXPORT FRAMES 4:3 (PIXEL ASPECT RATIO PROBLEM I THINK)
 
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The grain isn't too bad, and you're not going to be able to do anything about it without more light in the room, which would be hard to manage in your time limits. I'd say, don't worry about the grain.

The shots look nice, and the light is fairly natural and nice looking. Good job! I don't like the second shot... too flat, and not dramatic enough. No depth to the light. The background is too bright. Also, the background looks a bit cluttered, especially in that shot, but a little bit in all of them. Remember to work on the set a little bit, and try to make sure the clutter is gone, or in line with the characters.

Good luck!


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Thank you!

Altough i dont know what 'clutter' meens?

The shoot is over, iam happy with the results, altough i do like the darker footage more.

If you want, take a look in the other forum about the DVX100 frame.. it seems i have made 2 topics that are growing to eachother...

Thanks for your help!
By the way: i have used a construction for the lights, we were talking about this a week or two ago, take a look.

Jerry
 
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