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Posts: 245 | Location: bill nye's town | Registered: November 25, 2005
i dont care what the answer is as long as every possible copy of it is destroyed to prevent any further such inspirations!
Don't blame the source... poorly conceived films can be 'traced' back to excellent sources much of the time. It's not the source's fault that someone else appropriated concepts for a mediocre copy.
I personally didn't like The Village that much. I felt he "cheated" the audience for the first time. In every other movie he's made the plot twist has been clearly predicted with loads of clues that we totally missed. Everything was laid out in the open. Not so in The Village.
My favorite was Unbreakable though. Fantastic movie.
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Posts: 5197 | Location: Tisch at New York University | Registered: June 03, 2003
Seriously. I got pissed off and left the theater before it was over, actually, when I saw how he was going to end it. I don't like his movies. You don't advertise a horror movie and screw the audience like that.
the village was a definate let down....the only real clue i noticed was the fact the didn't really talk old english...but i thought it was just the director/actors slacking...maybe not so much. but yeah bad movie, wasn't even scary...stupid plot twist. all add up to = bad movie.
unbreakable was good though. i think it was just because my man sam, but maybe not...wish he would've made the sequels he wanted to though, it would've turned out better. (one of the flaws they had with that movie [not really to the movie, but sometihing that lessened the popularity of it] was the marketing as well, because they marketed it as a super hero movie, and there's only one scene of "super heroism" and that's at the end.)
Originally posted by killswitch: Seriously. I got pissed off and left the theater before it was over, actually, when I saw how he was going to end it. I don't like his movies. You don't advertise a horror movie and screw the audience like that.
People were expecting something, and Shyamalan didn't give a sh*t, he just went his own way and pissed a buncha people off. What a riot. Yeah, but I went into it without any biases(not being a big Shyamalan fan anyway), and came out pleasantly surprised. I don't give a crap if it was labeled as horror, it was a good movie. Love the surrealness and the story. Signs was tame and it took patience to watch it, but it rocked my socks off. Love the scene where Joaquin nails the alien with the baseball bat. Great stuff. I don't really pay attention to movie hype and all that jazz.
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Posts: 389 | Location: Kansas City USA | Registered: June 23, 2005
People were expecting something, and Shyamalan didn't give a sh*t, he just went his own way and pissed a buncha people off.
What do you mean? That guy's entire career has been based on "twists" - expanding it to include the movie's marketing is a logical extension. In the end he did exactly what was expected.
Yeah, there was a twist. There's always a twist. But it wasn't all scary/horror like people were expecting. It's basically a love story, with lots of surreal stuff. Not your typical horror stuff. People were expecting the 6th sense and got something a little more deranged.
Posts: 389 | Location: Kansas City USA | Registered: June 23, 2005
What I appreciate about The Village is that Shamalamadingdong HIMSELF tells the audience the basis for the twist in an extraneous lecture to the patrol kid right at the very end.
SHAMALAMADINGDONG: "Oh, by the way, kid -- some billionaire paid off the park service to prohibit planes from flying over a certain part of the woods, so if a blind girl hops the fence looking for medicine, it's best not to ask any questions and just give it to her, because she's probably from some remote, anachronistic Village We Don't Speak Of. Quite a twist, huh, kid?"
And after that, who really cares about the story, right? So the girl comes back, roll credits. Does Jo Phoenix die? Do the villagers continue their secluded existence and the ruse that retains their order? Who cares??? We're so blown away by Shamalamadingdong's powers of distortion that we're ready to leave and start anticipating what he's got in store for us next.
All his movies suck. Ron Howard's blind daughter sucks. William Hurt is seriously starting to suck, too.
Posts: 598 | Location: Mobile, AL | Registered: May 10, 2005
So yes there was a problem with the way The Village ended. it was lame. But the movie itself was very damn good. It's a cop out to call M. Nights movies crap. Better than "SWISS CHEESE" the worst script I've ever read. Give the guys some credit. He knows what he's doing.
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Posts: 5 | Location: Anchorage, AK | Registered: January 09, 2006
I think that The Sixth Sense was probably the biggest directorial fluke this side of Deer Hunter...just my opinion.
How can you even compare the two? The Sixth Sense was a crappy snoozefest. It was no fluke - his other movies are uniformly awful as well. The Deer Hunter, on the other hand, is one of the best Vietnam war movies ever made. Cimino's other films aren't godawful, just not up to that level.
wait a minute, are u talking about the village? cause it sounds just like ur talking about the truman show? and as far as CHimino goes, i think the guy sux, but i know we all aspire to be as bad-ass as Chris Walken in Heaven's Gate
Posts: 2173 | Location: n/a | Registered: May 06, 2003
CP-Eric, please don't bash the work of other members. Constructive critique is one thing; bringing up how someone else's script is the worst you've ever read in another thread is not okay.
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Posts: 5197 | Location: Tisch at New York University | Registered: June 03, 2003
Okay, I understand people here might have opinions but I also understand sometimes people just make bad movies- either way, a film message board should be the first place to look constructive criticism and not nonsensical "that sucked."
I think Shyamalans movies are well made in respects to filmmaking. The plots are cool but in the end they are all held up by a single twist and it's beginning to get a bit forumlaic. People might like his movies but if he wants to reach the broader audience he needs to change up his act.
Also, was anyone else cracking up at the Lady in the Water teaser? I just thought it was absurd- and Shamyalans name being tacked onto the end didn't have a positive connotation in my eyes.
Posts: 293 | Location: North NJ | Registered: July 23, 2004
One of the great things about The Village was that the twist was so shockingly unshocking, and pretty tame. That was his FU to the audience. It's a joke on you guys. Hahahahhahhahahhaha
Posts: 389 | Location: Kansas City USA | Registered: June 23, 2005
For some reason I think Shamyalan thought that was a pretty cool twist- it was cool but I think it was lame to have that single fact and moment back up the whole story and plot.
Posts: 293 | Location: North NJ | Registered: July 23, 2004