What is this piece of garabe? It didn't follow the comic and kept making **** up as it went on. Iceman and Rogue? The characters were either over looked and completely under looked. Iceman had way too much given to him, where as Pyro had nothing at all, also I wanted to know alot more about Nightcrawler since the first ten minutes was focused on his actions. The romance between Rogue and Iceman was way too big in the begining and you can tell the director noticed because he dropped it, completely. The villian was a joke and a half, not a challenge at all. The action scene between Wolverine and that chick was fairly weak. When are they going to go by the comic? Spiderman and Daredevil did, so why can't X-men? As I was a faithful X-Men reader I demand to see Gambit (the character and the romance with Rogue, because Rogue NEVER got with Iceman), The Beast, Juggernaut, Appocalypse, Mystique as Rogue's Mother, Jean Gray has Pheonix (that may happen if they are smart), Sabertooth, actaul X-Men costumes, less Iceman and more Colossus. If you never read the X-Men comics then it was a good movie, but if you did I would recommend lighting the film on fire. My advice fire the writers and director and hire someone who actually read the X-Men comics and start all over.
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Posts: 45 | Location: Sellersville, PA, USA | Registered: March 19, 2003
I am a little dissapointed in your post just for the fact that all you did was complain because you provide no reasons for hating this movie. I personally thought it was an incredible film. Much better than the first one in fact and definetly the best comic book film to date. Spiderman was horrible in my eyes (I am not a big fan of Sam Raimi) and I didn't enjoy Daredevil either. The Hulk looks to cheesy for me, too computer generated. It may be good. I haven't seen the new trailer yet though, just the teaser.
Anyways, back to X-Men 2. Bryan Singer is the best director out there in my opinion. My favorite film is the Usual Suspects so I trust anything he does. I had absolutely no complaints with this movie. I thought the beginning was amazing with Nightcrawler kicking everyone's ass in the WHite House, especially in the slow motion shots where he was transporting all over the place. Also I don't see how you could say that the fight between Wolverine and Deathstrike was crappy. It was awesome. It was so brutal and it kicked ass. Supposedly they had to cut alot out to get the PG-13 for that scene.
Also what else annoys me is when people complain about the costumes. Personally, I think it would be really cheesy to see them wandering around in tights. That works for the comic books and cartoons but not for a live action film.
I was also glad to see Bryan Singer back with John Ottman as his editor and composer. I thought something happened since he wasn't apart of X-Men 1. The score in X-Men 2 was incredible, much better than Michael Kamen's in the first one (although I have nothing against him).
Anyways, in my opinion X2 was awesome. Anyone else have opinions on this movie?
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Posts: 143 | Location: Alpharetta, GA, USA | Registered: January 12, 2003
My complaint is is that it didn't go by the comic book or the cartoon series. The movie was made up like nobody ever read the X-Men comics. Now I didn't like Spiderman because of Toby and Kristen, but it atleast followed the actual story. And you say you don't see a reason why I didn't like it? Maybe you should read it again. I wouldv'e liked the movie if I never really read X-Men as a kid, but since I did it was horrible. So to get my point acroos to you IT WAS NOTHING LIKE THE COMIC BOOK.
What I believe in isn't scary, it's what I don't believe in that is.
Posts: 45 | Location: Sellersville, PA, USA | Registered: March 19, 2003
Maybe you should pick up some old X-Men comics, then you will see what I am talking about. Or watch the old cartoon series that was out like 7-10 years ago.
What I believe in isn't scary, it's what I don't believe in that is.
Posts: 45 | Location: Sellersville, PA, USA | Registered: March 19, 2003
Humanmachine has a point about not following the book. But even though spiderman did follow it, they made it out to be such a queer thing. Spiderman had attitude and some spark to his punch... toby was just a fu*cking pussy. I don't believe their appealing properly to the generation of people that loved the comic book so much. But then again its all about making money, so what there doing is to make money and all we can do is *****!!
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Posts: 590 | Location: Canada | Registered: December 26, 2002
X2 kicked so much ass. I followed the cartoon series much more than comic book and was still able to enjoy the movie, although I thought they're bringing in Phoenix way too soon. After accepting the fact that all the ages got so messed up in the first movie I just overlooked a lot of things in this one and told myself that Bryan Singer and David Hayter (Solid Snake, baby!) are telling their own X-Men story. The two thigs that really did rub me the wrong way about this movie though, is that they used a different actress for Shadowcat than they did in the last film, and, what the hell was up with Colussus's American accent? Everyone knows he's a badass pinko bastard. Otherwise, Nightcrawler and a badderassed Wolverine totally made the movie worthwile.
Yeah, X2 kicked my ass something fierce, pure amazing spectacle. It was a perfect package of summer movie fun: great special fx, solid acting (wolverine had some serious charisma), good story, nice editing, music, etc. It was just a great, great summer blockbuster, I couldn't ask for more, I really couldn't.
It even had moments of drama that fitted in PERFECTLY between all the ass-kicking such as the shot of Iceman looking at his family and home as they take off in the blackbird (or whatever that plane is called), or the quiet conversation between Nightcrawler and Storm about humans actions towards mutants and how mutants should deal with them, but mostly at the end when....
SPOILER
....Jean Grey/Phoenix is "dies" and Hugh Jackman shows some GREAT acting when he completely breaks down (James Marsden as Cyclops did a commendable job as well), but seriously, Jackman's emotions during that scene was fantastic, it really struck a chord with me, this guy was a rock hard Bezerker killing machine, yet he still cries. Everything was built up so well to that point, that his dramatic reaction to her loss was just...bliss, in an ironic sort of way.
Also, the cinematogrophy was great, again a great example is at the end when the sun is crossing all their faces slowly....I was left very impressed with that.
Anyway, I'm rambling, great flick, bring on Reloaded and Hulk.
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Posts: 95 | Location: Dallas/TX/USA | Registered: November 04, 2002
I dont know how long youv been reading them, but they followed them pretty dog gone close, with the exception of a few liberties.
You bassically have to excuse the whole first film, as Bryan Singer had little to no time to correct some flaws, and is now left working with what he has.
The first film took the animated series Jubilee/wolvie storyline, and applied it to Rouge, big deal. As for this film, they sayed alot more true to form. Ofr course there is the dark Phoenix set up, which is fantastic, and the NAILED Night Crawlers back story. The comic has done little with him worth mentioning, since his beginning, but this film made it ALL better.
They did kind of waste Deathstrike, not showing her true back story with Wolvie, but they even made reffrence to Xaviers sun (the kid with the wired colored eyes) Given the way Hollywood works, and the fact that before this, Bryan Singer wasnt exactly a fan, they have done an amazing job with this. X@ Blew away Spiderman, and Dardevil (and they didnt really stick to the comic for Daredevil) Check out some of the oldr X-Men stuff, and then watch the film again. You will have a greater appreciation for what theyve done. R. M.
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Hey humanmachine, pull your head out of your ass. I'm gonna come out right now and say that I don't read the comics, but I will say that I have three or four good friends that have been in love with the X-Men comics and faithful followers ever since they could read. And each one of them were satisfied with the way the movie went and the amount of validity they gave to the comics. So you need to stop b*tching and go cry in your room. Bryan Singer isn't going to call you up and play favorites with you. The X-Men is such a complex enterprise that you can't have everything in the movie.
Oh, and it's funny you gave praise to Daredevil for some reason, ... because THAT movie was a piece of garbage. Please, go read comics in your room and stop b*tching about an incredibly well-made movie.
Posts: 99 | Location: Alpharetta, Georgia, USA | Registered: April 07, 2003
Well, yeah. If I remebered correctly most actors were signed for a three picture deal after the success of the first one. I'm not sure if that deal included that first one or not, but there will definetly be some more. You couldn't tell the ending was just a huge opening for another movie?
I think it would be impossible to truly follow the comics - the storylines are so huge and epic in the comics and rely on each other so much - there is only so much you can fit into each movie.
I think I like it more this way anyway, why watch a movie when you already know what is going to happen? I like the way that there is a definete attention given to the comics, yet there is a different enough adaption to keep it interesting and keeping you guessing to what is going to happen next.
And Beast was in the movie for a bit. He was on the television in the bar. And Gambits name was in the database of mutants.
Posts: 76 | Location: Saint Johns, MI, USA | Registered: November 17, 2002
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