Help me out. Earlier this year the West Coast team and I shot, directed, and produced my idea for a empowering film for teenage girls.Ironically, enough our team was a bunch of teenage girls, but from all different states we came together to make a pretty cool movie.
(We're a pretty talented bunch, I mean in the East Coast trailor, one of songs was composed by one my teammates.)
Let me know what you think. And don't forget to vote WEST COAST.
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Yeah, it's nerve wracking, we're ahead by 2% now but it's hard keep that lead when the other team can get on at anytime and start to tear it down. But I've ogt an army of voters (but always looking for more additions)helping the team out, not mention the all of the girls have been promoting everywhere.
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smiles, i would imagine FF is like this program but with guys and more teams, and not spnosered by a pad company but by a camera one (it's sponsered by Samsung.)
But the interns that worked with us had done Fresh Films , so they're pretty similar. Although, Samsung is a lot less hands on, they let you do what you need to do (honestly, I would've appreciated less corporate stuff, so maybe I should've done that but this year there no team near me.)
Thank you for voting, yawnface.
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So, in conclusion we lost as they so proudly displayed on the site's front page. But then again the other team cheated, so in the world of ethics and all that's right with the world we won.
The West Coast won.
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Posts: 221 | Location: FSU | Registered: May 29, 2006
Wait.. are the voting logs public? I'm almost certain that it's impossible for a program or script to do the voting, as there was a turing test with scrambled letters, and if those are good enough for my bank and PayPal, they're good enough to stop a voting script.
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It wouldn't necessarily have to be a script writing program, they could've got in through a backdoor in the progam (a glitch) and personally, I don't buy their claim they've been monitoring the system extensively, because they've given wishy-washy info on other things (bothe teams are supposed to go to the premiere, a teammate called to make sure, this guy assured her yes both teams were going; then at the very end of the convo, he goes "oh wait, I'm not sure, don't mention this convo, i have to go check the rules.) If that's who they have doing FAQ, I can't imagine who they have doing tech.
Anyway, if you saw the voting patterns; at the time we were ahead it became literally impossible for the losing team to move ahead (quickly), there had been craploads of votes in the system, we were on voting ... and then all of the sudden Sunday night, 7:30, all hell breaks loose...the other team breaks into an unstoppable voting frenzy.
Our whole team was on voting, we had friends and family voting with us, they were 15% down, it was over a week into the competition. And their score just shot up for the next 24 hours non-stop. Within a mere 16 hours, they were even with us. Within 24, they were ahead.
Now, my team had recovered from falling behind before but even with loads of help, it took almost a week ( and this is when it was easier to move.)
* When you're ahead, it's supposed to be easier to keep moving up
** The more votes that are put in the harder it is to move up a percent
Now, even if we were to imagine that they got a ****load of people to vote- why hell would all those people (these girls needed at least 14,00 + votes just to get even) do an all nighter/all day. THe "voting" ran from 7:30pm Sunday to 10:30pm Monday.
It was insane, they moved up .10 every freaking minute.
Then in the last 3 days of the comp. they doubled the amount they'd been behind.
I'm not great at math but something is wrong with that equation.
My team hadn't been sitting on our butts, we were having voting party, promoting our butts off, we'd been ahead for days and they killed that in a couple of hours. It's pretty much illogical...there's a girl from the other team in my city. I'm never run into any of her promotion around town, I know a kid that goes to her higschool, he didn't evn know about the competition until I told him... I'm sure she was working "real" hard.
You can tell when your voting against people and since Sunday my team and it's supporters were not voting against people. Tell me why, they made an insane jump in votes and for the past 4 days we haven't been able to move up one percent. Even though everyday, i had people e-mail telling me they'd voted like 200 times and people were having voting parties; and one girl had done like 5 interviews.
The only way we ever moved was down...and they made an astronomical 16 hr recovery.
I believe in miracles, but i believe in logic too.
* No, the voting logs are not public ** I see it this way: It's like hacking a computer, if you infiltrate the system you don't need the password. And I think the tech guy is BS'ing enough , that he doesn't know what he's talking about. ***It may not have been a conscious team plan, one girl might've gotten a friend to do it, but if I was on that team I'd be might curious how 14,000+ votes got cast overnight and all rose the score even as they battled against the other team.
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Wow. That's actually pretty scary. I mean, the turing test with the scrambled letters is virtually unbeatable, but that evidence does point toward something other than humans.
I guess it is possible to make a system that at least automates the voting process, allowing a human to sit there answering the turing test over and over, and let the script do the rest, but somehow I don't think even that would be fast enough... If it reduced it to a five second process (type in letters, wait, type in letters) it would have been 19.4 work-hours. That could easily be done by a group of people.
Maybe it is possible they found a hack. I don't think they literally infiltrated it, or they would have just incremented it all at once and been done with it... It's very possible that the turing test wasn't securely implemented and there was a way through it that allowed the computer to find the answer. Ick.
I hate these popularity contests because of this. They need to just base it on something else. It sucks for everyone involved.
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