I put a lot of hard work into this one, actually, it was more fun than hard. It was made with Adobe Premiere which i've been learning for the past few years. I used Mudshovel by Staind and i have to say i think it fit the movie pretty well. What say you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO3Bbo-Nxpg

nico

i say, "i will never understand why people make these kinds of videos" .... not trying to be a jerk, but i was really bored. It had no real action... and it just seemed like it was a bunch of scenes from memento put to music, but they were all kind of boring scenes set to a kind of boring song... so i guess the song suited it, but it just didn't enhance the experience for me... I guess i am predisposed to disliking these kinds of videos in the first plase, so dont take what i say too seriously, but..yeah... not diggin it.

:P the song's badass

Memento probably isnt the type of movie that works optimally in this format. A lot of what Memento is is cool storytelling techniques and character interactions...and you lose both in this pseudo-music video format.

Really-- maybe I'm a jerk, but I don't get it. Are you just trying to make music videos out of films? Calling these trailers seems ridiculous, because they don't in any way illustrate the story-- or make people want to see the films. And Momento is a great film-- this wannabe MTV remix loses that.

I kind of agree with Evan. I mean it would be one thing if you were recutting the footage to make something new or witty (a la the Shining trailer) or even using it as a personal exercise to practice editing. But you're not-- at least I assume you're not because you keep posting for our opinions.

Maybe you just like criticism?

What's wrong with wanting criticism?

Nothing...every filmmaker should always be open for criticism. I'm just wondering how effective editing movies over music is at gaining editing experience. At least that's what we're assuming you're doing. I think you told me that was your motivation behind doing this. While it may be helpful to you, it's rather boring to everyone else to see movies needlessly re-edited into a music video. The shots aren't cut with the beats of the music, the juxtaposition doesn't flow into any coherent action or sequence of events, so I don't even think you can call it a music video or a trailer either.

It just looks like you took the end of the movie and let it play over Aaron Lewis' whining.

So say I.

"It just looks like you took the end of the movie and let it play over Aaron Lewis' whining."

Not to be too rude but, that's actually kindof a compliment to me.

i think your guy's problem with my memento collage is that it's not obvious and doesn't do the thinking for you and the only thoughts in your heads are bad ones to begin with, so, since its not thinkin for you, the bad ones are all that's left, what says you?

Okay then. I'll bite. Explain to us what we're missing.

I can't explain it but after watching some of your movies and knowing my style the closest i can put it into words is emotional content. feeling. i feel connected to what i make and when i look at some of your stuff its like mathematical, by the book, dissasociated, there's a lot of hiding going on. i'm trying hard not to hide anything in my project except for the dialogue which is what i set out to do and which i'm proud that i stuck with. but yeah, if you have something that you think might make me "feel" something, link me to it, cuz i haven't seen it yet, not trying to be too rude again, just honest

nick youre the only one here hiding by not showing us some REAL work..anyone can recut a stupid movie to music. this is not you

It's immature and pretentious to assume many people, coming from diverse social, ethnic and religious backgrounds, will get the same emotional response from your video as you do. Of COURSE you feel connected to your work, you know it best! In fact it shows your lack of ability as a filmmaker to make anyone else here feel connected to it as you do. The beauty of art is that many different people can walk away with different perceptions of purpose or message from a piece of work. Instead, you choose to circumscribe yourself within this vague corner of "emotional content" you claim to create--with, by the way, someone else's film and someone else's music. Instead you come off as self-aggrandizing and criminally derivative.

I'd like to hear what kind of "hiding" I have going on in my work, whatever that means. Also I have no idea what would make you "feel" something. Why assume I want you to "feel" something anyway? I have no idea as to your interests or personal life. I make films to entertain and satisfy my own curiosities and development as a filmmaker, that's it. If my work influences, inspires you, etc. that's wonderful but that won't happen to everyone simply by the nature that everyone is different. I've gotten a wide range of feedback on my work so I know to what kind of group I cater. And, like me, you'll probably continue in your own direction regardless of what people say. But keep in mind that not very many people will find juxtaposing a feature film over a popular song to satisfy your own "emotional content" to be creative or significant.

I'm still blown away by how you want to compare your work, none of which has been created by you, with mine, which has been completely created from scratch. With an actual camera.

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I'm still blown away by how you want to compare your work, none of which has been created by you, with mine, which has been completely created from scratch. With an actual camera.

Don't get me wrong, Im a fan of your work and Ive probably told you that on multiple occasions. But 'The Dorm' was not quite from scratch...I was just curious what your motivation was behind making that?

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Don't get me wrong, Im a fan of your work and Ive probably told you that on multiple occasions. But 'The Dorm' was not quite from scratch...I was just curious what your motivation was behind making that?

The only time I have ever used material from someone/something else is to satisfy a school assignment or paid job. That was a project for "Hollywood Day" during the Arts Fair at UMD College Park. Members of the Scholars Arts film class, were required to parody/parallel a pre-existing TV show or movie. That, and practically everyone in my dorm is a huge fan of the Office so I acquiesced.

Here's something I created from scratch you assumumptive person you, at least for the most part, i did take some liberties with a jingle or two and i'm sure you would shriek at my credit music but eat that ice cube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgCatBPlh_E

all i can say though, is... what can i say? i'm a pop music wh0re :P

My turn, I suppose. I really tried to restrain from posting in this topic, but I guess I can't resist any longer.

It seems that everytime I post on this board it has to be in the defense of someone. Anyone else think thats sad?

Anyway, everyone says that theres no point to this video and that its stupid and useless right? Its a collage of scenes from Memento - correct? He edited it to music? Yep, I'm pretty sure he did

What exactly did he do wrong? Hes teaching himself how to edit people. How can no one else see that? Hes doing something that he enjoys doing and learning an NLE at the same time. Jesus Christ, you people are savage - ripping on him for not being original?

How the hell do you know he wants to be a director or a DP? He could simply just want to be an editor and is honing his skills as such.

May not have been the best thing in the world, but why trash it as complete garbage without at least considering the effort that hes putting forth?

I know there's no such thing as compassion in this industry, but none of you are pros, so I really don't know why you're bashing anyone. Oh and please don't give me the "if he can't take constructive criticism" crap, because its not constructive whatsoever.

-Kegan

I don't have any problem with it. I gave him my honest opinion, however negative it was, and he took it well.

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i think your guy's problem with my memento collage is that it's not obvious and doesn't do the thinking for you and the only thoughts in your heads are bad ones to begin with

Oh...well...maybe he didn't...so I asked for an explanation. That's not too much to ask is it? Just a sort of recap of what artistic merit he wanted criticized? And he gave it, perfectly clear:

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I can't explain it but after watching some of your movies and knowing my style the closest i can put it into words is emotional content. feeling.

Hmm. Actually that's a little vague. And incredibly subjective. So your collage has feeling because you say so? And actually, it does, because that's how art works, and even if I don't see it I have to accept that you do. Which is fine. Just keep in mind yours is built on the story of Memento, and people who haven't seen it will be completely disconnected and just see a crazy guy scribbling notes on a Polaroid for three and half minutes. And even people who have seen it seem to be very unimpressed.

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if you have something that you think might make me "feel" something, link me to it,

I smell a "Who's Artsier" competition! Well I guess I'll just try to explain what I think art really is, and if you'd be so kind, please don't box my work into a corner and tell it to "mean something," thanks. That's my job, not yours.

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eat that ice cube!

Well put.

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why trash it as complete garbage without at least considering the effort that hes putting forth?

Kegan, I think to myself the same question all the time, but I'm just too lazy to tack on "good effort anyway" at the end of my posts. Too many extra words. Maybe I should make it my signature? This is art, and there is creativity here, but the amount is lackluster and none of it is original. If he really wanted to put forth effort I'm sure he could do it a lot more creatively.

I don't know why, but this site evokes so much unusual negative energy from me. Possibly could be the black background. I give my honest opinion, however negative it is, and I don't sugarcoat it. It's unhealthy.

Look, I appreciate what you're trying to do, but Memento was a masterpiece and you butchered it.

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Thanks for the nice words Kegan, it's nice to know that i'm not the only one But, funkybom.... u are way too defensive man, lighten up wouldya, ur one of those people who tries to take the joy out of filmmaking, "steal my sunshine" type of guy if i might say so myself. u seem to be trying to be this perfect thing in an imperfect world. my advice is give that up and point your vessel in a different direction. u want me to explain my movie to you so bad but i'm a firm believer that it should explain itself, if i try to explain it too much then it will die. And to me, my definition of art? there is no definition, but if i was really really really drunk and someone tried to force me to give them a definition, like you seem to be trying to do to me, then i would say art is something that invokes a reaction....and.... if that's the case, then i must have done a pretty good job on this one, contrary to the literal meaning of the vinegary statements you keep hurling my way, either way... thanks for the confirmation bro. and i do mean all this in the least rude way possible, for sho sho :P