Wow words can't describe this simply amazing piece of artwork. After watching it i think it has become my favorite movie of all time. Please post what you liked about this movie. I dont want any flaming on this superb movie, however if you disliked something please state it and why

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Theres only one way to describe the entire trilogy- They pulled it off. simple as that. greatest trilogy of all time.

True it is the best trilogy as of now but I think they did a little better job than just "pulling it off."

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Okay I'm sorry. I know you said no flaming...So I'll try and keep this as respectable as possible....

Lord Of The Rings is the most overrated trilogy of all time.

It's hard to imagine that people actually think so highly of these 3 peice of trash movies.

Now that I've expressed that I dislike these movies... I'll say why....

1) As you all know, Lord Of The Rings is a book. I feel that the movies rely too heavily on NEEDING prior knowledge of the book to understand the movie and what is happening. I understand that there may be alot of people out there that never read the book that understood the movie... FINE... there are exceptions to everything. But the fact is that lord Of the Rings does NOT DEVLEOP A STORY. THEY HAVE THAT LITTLE FLASHBACK AT THE BEGINNING OF "THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING" WITH THE NARRATOR EXPLAINING (Big No-no in film) AND SUDDENLY PETER JACKSON HAS HIS PLOT LINED OUT FOR THREE, THREE HOUR LONG MOVIES.

Does anyone see my point? There's no focus in the movie. You have no characters to care for. its all Fighting and visual eye-candy.

2 ) SPECIAL EFFECTS... To much relys on fancy special effects these days. However, I don't hate a movie soley for this reason. Allow me stray from LOT for a moment and bring up an example with he Matrix. it will prove my point with my theaory on LORD of the RINGS.

Okay... The first Matrix was great... the other 2 sucked. WHY?... I'll tell you. The first Matirx was very character driven. I truly felt for Neo, and Trinity and when Morpheus was kidnapped, I was Upset. and I actually cared if they would get him back. See... Movies are all about experience... the audience has to live it. if a movie can make you care, then special effects will seem more realy that ever. However...If you've ever watched a movie you didn't care to much for... then they trying to through some facny special effect at you... you'd feal disgusted. (Tomb Raider 2) Thats why the last 2 Matrixes were just garbage... DID NOT BRING OUT THE EXPERIENCE>.... JUST TRYED TO "WOW" people with their crazy special effects and their cutting edge fighting styles. Did anyone else notice that the last 2 Matrixes were much more comlicated than the first one? and much heavier on the effects? hmmmmmmm.... I wonder why? This totally proves my point. I just hope I'm explaining clearly.

This same concept applies for lord of the rings.. ONLY... LOTR trilogy doesn't have 1 good movie. They all go by this special effect parade where some kid named DJ crazy who just bought the 8 mile soundtrack is going to pay 10 bucks so he can see "Some serious special effcts Dawg... Watch some hoes get SHOT UP son"

It makes me sick...

And I know that ROTK is going to win best film this year and that makes my even more sick.

Someday I'll change all this...

I'll save the cinema's life...

Hopefully.

i havent read the books and i understand everything going on. Also the sfx are completely original.

I think you would have to try to NOT understand the movie. I have plenty of friends you have never read the books and comnpletely understood what was happening.
No emotion!! How could you not feel the least bit sad when Gandalf 'died' in the Mines of Moria!

The specail effects were used in good taste. I think I've said this somewhere else on the board, but as long as the SPX drive the plot, they are fine. (Matrix for shissel didn't do that).

" . . . Choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve . . . but as for me and for my house, we will serve the Lord." - Joshua 24:15

I'm in total agreement, but only with Drew Johnton. I honestly went to see this for the sole reason to finish the damn trilogy. They said it would be the best of them all. I don't think I will ever see a trilogy again. Both this movie and the Matrix trilogies disappointed me [Except Matrix I of course]. I fell asleep through this movie. The only reason I stayed up was so that I wouldn't have to go back and see it again to see parts I missed. I honestly did not feel anything for these characters. I could give a crap whether or not Frodo and Sam died, or any of them for that matter. In fact I think the damn movie could have ended when they were at the Volcano on the rock [before the eagles save them]. This story was just too corny and cliched. Also, why would it not freaking end! I mean comon! He gets crowned king then fade to black and you think, "Oh god it's finally over!" BUT NO! We have to see them getting back together for a gay round-up on the bed. Then it fades out again but is it over? Of course not cuz we have to see Frodo get on the damn boat for some other "exciting" journey. For this film to win any award other than maybe sfx, would be an atrocity. Sorry to burn this film even though you specifically asked not to, but hey, unlike LOTR, this ain't no fairy tale where things end happily. This is the real world where people have differing opinions and viewpoints. Actually, I'm not sorry, except for the fact that you can't take criticism. Deal with it.

[This message was edited by LiQuId on December 17, 2003 at 10:17 PM.]

I've never read the books and I love the movies. Also, watching the special features on the dvds is one of the most inspiring experiences Ive had recently.

I actually feel sorry for those of you who do not appreciate or are unable to enjoy these films. They are masterpieces, and very seldom do films of this calliber come along that a so well made and enagaging. As for Drew Johnston, PJ did a great job of making these films, and the only way you could not understand the story is if you tried not to. It is quite possible that in your subconscious you have chosen not to like these movies, just because everyone else does, and you want to get attention and be different. It happens everywhere, not just movies, so its okay. But your reasons are invalid and you proved none of throughts through. Many of the special effects in LOTR are amazing, and they movies don't rely on them, they enhance the story.

And no you will not change anything, because you have no respect for what a truly great film is.

Thomas Verrette
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The first hour (minus the deagol/smeagol thing...that's essential) should have been in two towers. The film took too long to get interesting (i disliked two towers a lot, so i wouldn't have cared if it were moved into it...was still crappy movie) but when it did, I watched and actually stayed the 3:45 (with trailers) duration although I had a bad **** brewing mid-way through.

forwarned: possible spoilers you pussies

To me, what tied up and brought some emotion was when we see Arwen...beautiful. Then the kneeling to Hobbits part...beautiful. Frodo writing his title...made me smile. But the scene on the top of minas tirith was what wrapped up the film for me. I didn't mind the epilogue...it's needed. at least they didn't go through the like 500 pages of Appendencise (sp). There were some areas that were poor filmmaking and/or rushed, but the overall end overshadows that and makes me forgive. PJ is not the best director and rotk is not the best movie...but its a great ending to the biggest attempt in cinema history.

...and they actually showed like 2 frames of Sean Bean...KICKASS! He's the greatest of all of them. but still...this movie was missing Ash (the great ass-kicker of all time) to straighten them out.

Oh, and the real ending isn't very happy. Did you notice there's not a single frame of Sarumon or Wormtongue? why? cuz he ****s up the shire bad and then both of them die and curse the land or something close to that...PJ gave the audiences the formula really...he made a happy ending (speilberg style by seeming to have more than one end)...and in that, i think he sold out from what the book's finale was. nothing is ever happily ever after...nothing (they try to hint that its not with frodo's speech, but the **** up with the sam thing)...but those are smaller problems i can live with.

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ehe drew, even my PARENTS understand the movies and love them

I completely disagree with ur points....but I am a freak and my opinion does not really count on this topic

Imperial Pictures.... I see what you saying but you're wrong. I dislike these movies becuase they are JUST the type of movie that will destroy the cinema.

I think I proved my point very well with my example using the Matrix.

Wanna hear another good Example? Star Wars. Look at back in the day when the special effects weren't as advanced. WHAT AN AMAZING TRILOGY. Now look.... The news one are so back. (However, II happen to enjoy StarWars because I'm a big fan, Doesn't necesarily mean they are good movies.)

Thats Another thing!

THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIKING A MOVIE AND THINKING ITS A GOOD MOVIE.

Just because you like LOTR doesn't mean you have tothink it's a good movie. This is exactly how I view Kill BIll. I liked it. A lot. But it's really not a good movie.

ANyway. I have to go to school. I can talk about this all day.... and probably will.

ehe funny philosophy

I believe both kill bill and the lord of the rings are excellent movies...however, both do not really follow the hollywood rules, that may make them strange

but nonetheless, great directing, great acting, awesome visuals...incredible story...why is that not a good movie

especially in terms of characters is lord of the rings so nice. In the big battle scenes, they never forget to show for what they fight and great little character moments are all over the place. And I DO care a lot for some things in the lord of the rings. The shire, beautifully introduced in the first part, the innocence of the people there, the hobbits. I do not want to see these things destroyed. I care about sam, frodo, even GOLLUM, who is one of the best characters i've seen in a movie.

I completely disagree with your points drew, with every single one of them Do not take it peronally

I dont see at all how you could not like the LOTR series. I noticed that people just give these lame excuses for not liking them like "You have to read the books to understand it" or "There is no good character recognition scenes." Honestly, how do you people not like beautiful scenery, superb acting, monsterous battle scenes, and excellent lighting and WOW the special effects? Oh yea, people hate trilogy's these days people hate epics, people hate once in a lifetime action adventures that blow you off your seat. Really I dont see why you can not like The Lord Of the rings. Its so incredibly sad that people make themselves believe that they dislike movies like Lord of the rings, just because they are once in a lifetime amazing and out of this world.

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Sorry for those of you who can't "think this is a good movie" or "like it" for that matter. This movie brings out everything that there is to being a movie. Technically it brought out some of the best lighting, sound, and the most incredible cinematography i have ever seen. The movie not only had a great story and i mean great story with charachters that you know because they have been developed over 10 hours of movie. You just love them. Emotionally this movie brings out epic battle sequences, magic, sorcery, love, hate, war,and friendship. This is a kick ass movie and if you can't enjoy it for any reason or get any type of emotional response then you think to much about annalyzing a movie instead of watching it or you are completely devoid of sentiment.

You know what?
I demand somebody who doesn't like the movie to give me a numbered list of things that were wrong with it.
Example: 1. this wasn't good . . .and this is why. . .

Drew did it a little bit, but he brought up the matrix. Don't comapre it to other movies, keep it within its limits. I will agree that the fade to blacks got annoying, but I think the one on the volcanoe was supposed to be an audience fakey.
So come on! Give me a numbered list with reasons.

" . . . Choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve . . . but as for me and for my house, we will serve the Lord." - Joshua 24:15

I'll give you reasons why I did not like this movie. No it is not that I am 10 years old and want attention so I go against the consensus. It is simply because I did not feel any sympathy for the characters involved nor did I care what happened to them. I like a character driven movie and this just didn't do it for me. For example, Frodo keeps on whining about how it's so damn hard to get to the mountain like 100 times. I GET IT. Let's get on with the damn movie already. The dialogue was horrible and redundant. It wasn't creating empathy within me. It simply bored me to death. Things are repeated so often I really could have missed a lot of the movie and still understood it. I think that is where my real beef with LOTR lies. It was too long. I think the trilogy could have been divided into 1 movie maybe, MAYBE 2 but seriously it was too long. Do we really have to see them get back together at the bed? Do we have to see the Sam's wedding and all the other "filler" scenes? I don't think so. And I'm not talking about just ROTK, but the whole trilogy. There was just a lot of things they could have left out to make the movie more concise. It makes it seem like he made it into 3 movies just to have a trilogy. Iono, maybe I just don't like epics. I simply feel that they trapped me into watching all of them by seeing the first one.
I will give it up for the SFX because to deny that is just wrong. They were awesome. The scenery and just everything about that was great. It did enhance the story, however there has to be a good story and characters for it to enhance anything for me.
The bottom line here is I thought it was boring and a waste of my time. However if you liked it, then great. I have my opinion you have yours. Don't get all defensive. It's just a movie [to me at least].

I dont recall Frodo complaining about the ring more than like 1 or 2 times. It was usually sam reasuring Frodo that he bears the burden.

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ehe wel some people like it, some not

personally I, and all my friends, we found it extremely satisfying to see the "filler" scenes. they ended the circle so beautifully and we all were touched by it