Ok, first, some more stills.....






See... this is what happens when you light DV.

As for video. These same guys have used this cam for some commercial spots they have shot. Below is a few links. The first is for a jewlery store ad. This is what this cam can do, when accompanied by some color correction, and filter simulating software. Enjoy.
R. M.
Christmas Jewlery ad
Furniture ad

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Hmmm... A bit crane happy are they?

Crane= production value. Production value= slicker/expensive look. Slicker/expensive look= Very happy clients.

Nothing wrong with crane shots as long as they serve a purpose, and dont detract from the story.

Christmas ad breakdown.
Dolly shot establishing home/caroelers
Crane shot booms up as girls look to see "Santa" on roof
Tilt down from misteltoe for kiss reveal (not a crane shot)
Intercut jewlery stock
Final shot of ring being handed pans camera right, then left. (also not a crane)

Myabe it is better to say "Camera movment happy" which, with such a short amount of time to "sell" something as interesting, i would have to agree with. Just my two cents.
R. M.

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.... I just watched the furniture ad. A bit more crane use thee, but it still had a purpouse. They had the table reveal with a crane booming up, then bassically hold that elevation through out. Seems they used it so one could get more of a birds eye view of both the products for sale, and the vast variety. So, crane shots, with a method to their madness.
R. M.

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note to self: this looks like a $3,500 home video camera. do not buy.

i think he shot in 60i or something, cause the full resolution samples i have on my computer look a lot better. you have to know how to use the controls, using the "instant film look" on the camera won't produce optimal results.

cranes HAVE to be used in local tv commercials, because things with content don't need them.

if you want to see my music video it's on studentfilms.com (vote away, please)...

http://www.studentfilms.com/film/get.do?id=298

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Originally posted by DR:
note to self: this looks like a $3,500 home video camera. do not buy.

i think he shot in 60i or something, cause the full resolution samples i have on my computer look a lot better. you have to know how to use the controls, using the "instant film look" on the camera won't produce optimal results.

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Of what do you speak. The stills, or the video clips?? and what "full res samples" are your speakingof? Both were shot in 24p, no 60i. Check out their site. These guys have been doing this for years, and shot everything from DV to 35mm, They usually shoot their comercial spots, and such on Beta SP, but recently almost stoped using it all togthere, in exchange for this cam. You think it looks like a $3,500 home video cam, compared to what? Have you tried watching those commercial clips, next to your music vid? If the commercials looks like Home videos, what would you call your music video? Im not trying to bash. I like your music vid. Its cool for what it is, but there is this thing called Lighting.... I liked your video, but its visual quality pales in comparrison to what this cam spits out. then again, you have your opinion, I have mine. I think maybe I mis understood your post. Clarrification may be in order.

Argue your case for me. I think something got lost in the translation. Im curious how you came to this conclusion. Thanks in advance.
R. Michael

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never said cranes were a bad thing, i have one myself and get very happy with it ... just after watching the two commercials the only thing i remembered is that he used a crane or dolly on every shot. just kind of funy, thats all.. but well done for local commercials.

Based on the screen grabs I would probablly agree with DR. I would probablly attribute the image shortcomings more to JPEG compression more than anything though. The resolution is really unacceptable in the wideshots and sub-par on the close-ups.

I was also under the impression that the footage from the "News stories" segments were indeed shot in 60i mode. Some of the grabs are pretty clearly interlaced.


But one should never judge a film or video camera based on stills (.jpeg's in particular). You really have to see them optimized to find the true flaws and true benefits.

Nota "My Pentax takes much better stills, but I'd trade it in a flash for a DVX-100" Mono

I'm kinda between Tizzy and that other guy who mention the 60i comment. See, in my experience, so long as you're dealing with a half decent 3chip cam, and you LIGHT it properly...you'll end up with something that looks semi-professional. I guarantee you (aside from 24p), if those same shots were taken with a pd-150 or xl1s, they'd look DAMN similar. The 24p and cine gama curve aspects of the dvx100 are nice (nice enough to the point where I'm buying one...so don't get me wrong...hehe), but it's really nothing that can't be tweaked (and it's a SLIGHT tweak, rest assured), in post. Deepen your blacks, bring out the whites, light it right, and long story short, the dvx really isn't the end all be all of DV. It just kinda helps you along the way in making your production look a little more like film right outta the box. But NADA will substitute for good lighting. And I'm not just talking throwing up a lamp on someone's face. Keys, fills, back/hairlights, overhead lighting, rich color schemes, illuminating background action...it's all part of creating better production value. And that's what the Linn brothers have done. But for nearly $4,000 bux (after taxes and accessories), you'd better off going with a more pro camera...namely the JVC GY-DV500, or the 5000, which is the newer replacement model I believe. They're right around that price range, and not only do you get the ability to use a PRO focusing mechanism, (making shallow depth of field an easy task), but the resolution, color range, and damn near everything else about the cam is superior in every way possible. Combine that with some tweaking in post (I have a great deinterlacing method that doesn't yield ANY lost resolution or judder/artifacting), and you're on your way to a BEAUTIFUL end product. Just my 2 cents.

Brian

Your right Rob, the news segemnts were shot in 60i, but I was under the impression he was reffering to the video clips. I very likley (most likley, in fact) was wrong about that. The video is 24p, those "news" shots, are not.

When put on the web, and compressed there will be little difference between DV shot 24p, and 30. Its the hard copy that makes me drool.
R. M.

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