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i have a shot of one of my actors flying in the air on a wire rig that we built. the shot came out pretty nice. there's a liitle girl that runs up to one of our little boy actors and hits him dead in the stomach. He then flies up in the air and lands a couple feet away from her. i then capture it on adobe premiere 6.5 speed up the girl then sloww it down when she hits him on impact. the only problem when i play it from my timeline it looks good but you can see lines in it. like its missing parts within the video. i dont like that look. how can i prevent that from happening. i want it to look clean. i have a jvc gydv 500. also how can i post pictures on here. to show you.
 
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I wish I could be of more assistants, but I know squat about Premiere. Although I own it, ive never edited on it, and seeing as Avis has a completly different interface, im lost.
I know there are quite a few premiere users here that should be able to help you. Plus, you might want to check out www.rewindvideo.com Some very helpfukl folks over there, and i know quite a few use premiere. Just incase you dont find help here.
The lines you speak of sound like digital drop outs. If so, you may need to re apply motion effects to your footage in order to loose it (make new files of the speed up, or slowed down footage. Whichever was affected.)

As for posting grabs. Youll need to export some still images fro it, in JPG. then, youll need to upload those pictures to a web server. (Like, if you have a website.) Once you have them on a website, simply right click on the pic, and select "Propertoes" then, copy and paste the URL address for that picture in the image box on this board, and your done. Good luck, and I wish i could have helped more.
R. M.

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Can you post a few screen grabs showing the problem? It sounds like Premiere isn't interpolating the frames properly to me.

You aren't doing anything strange like frame rate conversions or anything like that are you?

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where is the picture board. iv'e already saved the pictures in jpeg form. i dont know where to post them at. also i dint do any frame conversion to it. i aslo heard retimer is a good program to slow stuff down and not worry about drop frames.
 
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Are parts missing within the video at normal speed? This usually either means dirty tape heads when capturing or a drop out on the tape itself. Either way, I'd try cleaning your tape heads and recapturing first. If the problem happens only when you speed it up, try turning frame blending on.

I've had some bad tapes before where one field of one frame has small dropouts on it. What I had to do is go into Commontion and clone (same as photoshop's rubber stamp) the video dropouts out of the field. If you've got commotion, you can also do all your wire removal there too.

best of luck
joren
 
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Can u elaborate a bit more about what commotion does?
It is just a imaging software proggie or what?

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As far as images go, you would have to have your own website 9or a friends website) and load them there, then link to them. This site (nor any other I know of) dosent allow you to upload to it. You have to link from elsewhere. I have a site, but its free, and dosent allow remote linking, so sometimes it works, sometimes not. You have a site, but I think they dont allow it. Ill give a test. Here is a pic from your site.

If its here when you read this, then it works, if not, then no. You can upload pics to your site, and then link to them.
I used to use my shop at cafe press www.cafepress.com to do this. I would load an image to a shirt, then go to the shop, and click "View image" I could then link to those images from the zoom, but I think they got wise to this, because it dosent work for me anymore. You might try it, though i dont know if its worth the trouble of setting up a shop, for linking that might not work.
R. M.

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As you se above, it didnt work. Most free sites wont let you remote link to images. You would need to get a site you pay for to do this.
R. M.

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I see a picture right now?

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Originally posted by Irony is a Dead Scene:
Can u elaborate a bit more about what commotion does?
It is just a imaging software proggie or what?



It's a compositing program, similar to after effects, except it'll also let you paint frames. Sortof an after effects meets photoshop.

With the example of the dropouts in the field, you can copy similar looking pixels to replace the areas that are missing. You can also add moving images over time into a whole new clip. One of the tutorials show how you can clone a clip of a seagull flying and clone it onto a clip of a boat in a harbor. Looks perfect in 10 minutes. That kind of stuff. I also use it when the boom mic drops into frame on an important shot.

It also has a great wire removal tool, which automatically erases the wire by replicating the pixels on either side of the wire. All you have to do is click and drag to tell commotion where the wires are.

I don't work for Pinnacle, but I think Commotion is an underrated program. I do use AE more than Commotion, but for any motion tracking, rotoscoping, cloning, or paint effects, I think Commotion works better/more efficiently. Plus Commotion has *real* rotoscope tools (sorry AE users).

I think there's a free trial on their website too.
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ProductPage.asp?Product_ID=110&Langue_ID=7

If you want to check out a competing product (which is more exspensive), check out Combustion by Descreet.
http://www.discreet.com/products/combustion/

hope this helped
joren
 
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all of my drum heads are clean causethe camera is brand new. also before i film i use a little tool that sprays air in the cassette compartment to get all them dust out. the problem really is the video plays really well. but when i slow it down like 50 percent with premiere 6.5 you can see missing lines in the frame. i want it to play super clean like matrix type of stuff. i know how to do some of there stuff. the effect that im trying to do is have the actor fly in the air after a punch impact, but while he flies up, the video is slowed down 50 % until he reaches the ground. i did all that but i want it to play clean and smooth not with the lines missing. i heard retimer has a good program for that. what about avid. is that a good program. if i get avid do i have to go out and buy another program just to do effects or is it a all in one package. see i have premiere to edit and i have after effects also. you guys are a real help to film makers. tizzy i hope that when you get big you dont forget about the message boards. but then again i will be with you cause im going to get big one day. all of us.
 
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Oh, you mean the video is choppy. Like instead of him moving smoothly through the air, he is like here, and then here, and then here. Like skipping, right?

Thats because video dosent shoot Slo Motion. See, film runs at 24fps. If they want something in slo-mo, they have to shoot more frames 60, 80, 120. The more frames, the slower it plays. Video shoot at 29.97fps period. You cant increase the frame rate. (Even the Panisonic Varricam dosent shoot true slo mo, but produces it on play back.)

Now, I have seen it done on video, but it takes some work. You would need to slo down the footage, and then morph between frames. Often, this causes background to warp, and such, so most have told me they had to shoot a clean plate of the background, and then put in only the person being slowed down, and morphed. Check out the trailers at www.schoolis2die4.com as an example. They shot on an XL1, then morphed for extreme slo mo. They might be able to give you tips. Good luck.
R. M.

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Play around with Retimer.. I have it but haven't used it yet, so I can't give you advice. But I am almost 100 percent sure it does what your asking for. A buddy of mine has used it for similar purposes.

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That's right, I remember a few highschool kids used a morph for slomo in their trailer for "boy/girl." I think it's on iFilm.com with a link to their website. On their website they have "making of videos" that talk about exactly their process. (now all they need is the movie, LOL)

Of course, morphing is a pain and you can't do it in Premiere (but you can in AE). Definately try retimer or REvision twixtor (¿¿Mac only??) plugins first.

Oh, BTW, I would never blow canned air in the tape drive. It could cause more damage than good.
My .02
joren

EDIT: Whoops, Tizzy and I are talking about the same trailer.
 
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